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> Turning off location history in Google and Apple Maps Google dark patterns make this a no-go. I have multiple locations stored on my Google maps. With locati

> Turning off location history in Google and Apple Maps Google dark patterns make this a no-go. I have multiple locations stored on my Google maps. With location history turned off I was fine until a few months ago when maps told me in order to access that data I need to turn location history back on. So google cripples their software unless you turn on tracking.

Iolaum 7y ago
This. Google maps becomes quite hostile&annoying to use if you deny that data access.
lm28469 7y ago
I see it as part of the exchange. You give them your data they give you nice products. If you decide to use it without giving, you get a lower quality product.
- eitland 7y ago
  AFAIK according to GDPR this (to hold non related features hostage) is specifically not allowed.
  - lm28469 7y ago
    "don't store my data" but also "store the data I want you to store for the features I cherry picked" probably doesn't work under gdpr.
    - rorykoehler 7y ago
      Of course it does. Gdpr is about explicit consent. Don't track my movements 24/7 but let me save places on the map is not a hard thing to comply with.
  - simonh 7y ago
    Who says they are unrelated? Providing access to your location data and history can enable a lot of very useful features that aren't possible without it.
    - eitland 7y ago
      Yep. And that would be OK with GDPR again AFAIK. But in this case it seems clearly wrong.
lallysingh 7y ago
Maps, thankfully isn't as necessary as it used to be. OSM is getting better, and Maps hasn't. It's less usable and keeps trying to shove businesses in my face.
chewz 7y ago
Use alternative maps - https://en.mapy.cz/ https://en.mapy.cz/, https://maps.me/ https://maps.me/ - Google Maps is useless anyway.
- FalconSensei 7y ago
  > Google Maps is useless anyway Care to elaborate on that? It seems very useful, considering the amount of people that use it on a daily basis
- throwaway55554 7y ago
  Here (HereWeGo) maps as well. I use it when I need an offline map.
SomeGuy789 7y ago
In one of the older versions of google maps having location turned off meant that the app wouldn't accept any input since a notification 'Turn on your location' kept repeatedly coming up somehow blocking everything. Effectively rendered the app unusable.

Iolaum 7y ago

This. Google maps becomes quite hostile&annoying to use if you deny that data access.

lm28469 7y ago

I see it as part of the exchange. You give them your data they give you nice products. If you decide to use it without giving, you get a lower quality product.

eitland 7y ago
AFAIK according to GDPR this (to hold non related features hostage) is specifically not allowed.
- lm28469 7y ago
  "don't store my data" but also "store the data I want you to store for the features I cherry picked" probably doesn't work under gdpr.
  - rorykoehler 7y ago
    Of course it does. Gdpr is about explicit consent. Don't track my movements 24/7 but let me save places on the map is not a hard thing to comply with.
- simonh 7y ago
  Who says they are unrelated? Providing access to your location data and history can enable a lot of very useful features that aren't possible without it.
  - eitland 7y ago
    Yep. And that would be OK with GDPR again AFAIK. But in this case it seems clearly wrong.

lallysingh 7y ago

Maps, thankfully isn't as necessary as it used to be. OSM is getting better, and Maps hasn't. It's less usable and keeps trying to shove businesses in my face.

chewz 7y ago

Use alternative maps - https://en.mapy.cz/ https://en.mapy.cz/, https://maps.me/ https://maps.me/ - Google Maps is useless anyway.

FalconSensei 7y ago
> Google Maps is useless anyway Care to elaborate on that? It seems very useful, considering the amount of people that use it on a daily basis
throwaway55554 7y ago
Here (HereWeGo) maps as well. I use it when I need an offline map.

SomeGuy789 7y ago

In one of the older versions of google maps having location turned off meant that the app wouldn't accept any input since a notification 'Turn on your location' kept repeatedly coming up somehow blocking everything. Effectively rendered the app unusable.