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It would be nice to do that, but if Apple has shown us anything, it's that you either play entirely by their rules, or you don't play at all. ANY attempt to cir

by rewind 16y ago

It would be nice to do that, but if Apple has shown us anything, it's that you either play entirely by their rules, or you don't play at all. ANY attempt to circumvent this will just mean your app gets bounced, then you're fucked. Once you're in the game, you'll have customers who depend on that app being available on the iPad. You can't risk pissing Apple off, so these types of workarounds aren't going to work. Anything that just involves physical goods is fair game, but if you're offering anything that's accessible through the app, you're digging your own grave by messing around.

zdw 16y ago
Imagine a "digital + physical" bundle that costs less than the digital alone, or a once yearly "archive" CD of the entire year's issues. Apple's policy is here: http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2011/02/15appstore.html http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2011/02/15appstore.html The pertinent section: "However, Apple does require that if a publisher chooses to sell a digital subscription separately outside of the app, that same subscription offer must be made available, at the same price or less, to customers who wish to subscribe from within the app." So, throw in a single letter once a year and you have physical + digital, and there is no issue with different pricing vs. App Store.
- raganwald 16y ago
  You seem to have missed the part of their policy that says "We reserve the right to change our policy if you try to do an end run around our policies." That's exactly how the current policy came to be: People like Amazon decided to give razors away (what's 30% of free?) and sell the blades on their own stores without giving Apple a cut.
  - zdw 16y ago
    Could you link to where you've seen Apple say that? It's not in the article I linked.
    - raganwald 16y ago
      The developer license agreement states this very clearly. Apple does not publish this agreement, but you can get yourself a copy easily. Versions of it have been published on the web from time to time, e.g. By the EFF: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/03/iphone-developer-program-license-agreement-all https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/03/iphone-developer-progr... The text in question is: Apple may change the Program Requirements or the terms of this Agreement at any time. New or modified Program Requirements will not retroactively apply to Applications already in distribution. In order to continue using the Apple Software or any services, You must accept and agree to the new Program Requirements and/or new terms of this Agreement. If You do not agree to new Program Requirements or new terms, Your use of the Apple Software and any services will be suspended or terminated by Apple. You agree that Your acceptance of such new Agreement terms or Program Requirements may be signified electronically, including without limitation, by Your checking a box or clicking on an "agree" or similar button. Nothing in this Section shall affect Apple's rights under Section 8 below.
      - zdw 16y ago
        How is that different from any other EULA for any other service? That seems to me like a generic boilerplate catchall, which doesn't speak to this specific issue.

by rewind 16y ago

zdw 16y ago

Imagine a "digital + physical" bundle that costs less than the digital alone, or a once yearly "archive" CD of the entire year's issues. Apple's policy is here: http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2011/02/15appstore.html http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2011/02/15appstore.html The pertinent section: "However, Apple does require that if a publisher chooses to sell a digital subscription separately outside of the app, that same subscription offer must be made available, at the same price or less, to customers who wish to subscribe from within the app." So, throw in a single letter once a year and you have physical + digital, and there is no issue with different pricing vs. App Store.

raganwald 16y ago
You seem to have missed the part of their policy that says "We reserve the right to change our policy if you try to do an end run around our policies." That's exactly how the current policy came to be: People like Amazon decided to give razors away (what's 30% of free?) and sell the blades on their own stores without giving Apple a cut.
- zdw 16y ago
  Could you link to where you've seen Apple say that? It's not in the article I linked.
  - raganwald 16y ago
    The developer license agreement states this very clearly. Apple does not publish this agreement, but you can get yourself a copy easily. Versions of it have been published on the web from time to time, e.g. By the EFF: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/03/iphone-developer-program-license-agreement-all https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/03/iphone-developer-progr... The text in question is: Apple may change the Program Requirements or the terms of this Agreement at any time. New or modified Program Requirements will not retroactively apply to Applications already in distribution. In order to continue using the Apple Software or any services, You must accept and agree to the new Program Requirements and/or new terms of this Agreement. If You do not agree to new Program Requirements or new terms, Your use of the Apple Software and any services will be suspended or terminated by Apple. You agree that Your acceptance of such new Agreement terms or Program Requirements may be signified electronically, including without limitation, by Your checking a box or clicking on an "agree" or similar button. Nothing in this Section shall affect Apple's rights under Section 8 below.
    - zdw 16y ago
      How is that different from any other EULA for any other service? That seems to me like a generic boilerplate catchall, which doesn't speak to this specific issue.