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Nowdays merged into wasmtime: https://github.com/bytecodealliance/wasmtime https://github.com/bytecodealliance/wasmtime

by karavelov 7y ago

jacobush 7y ago
Ok, but is it cool and why? I was hoping for more comments here. :)
jeltz 7y ago
Do you know how wasmtime comapres to wasmer?
- syrusakbary 7y ago
  Hi, I'm Syrus (founder of Wasmer [0]). First things first: we have the deepest appreciation for Jack and the people behind the effort at lightbeam. They did a lot of amazing work on that space that inspired our work in the Singlepass compiler (similar design principles as lightbeam). On that sense, Wasmer is built to support any kind of compiler backend. We currently support Singlepass (streaming compiler), Cranelift and LLVM (for super optimal environments). [1] We also support ARM [2] chipsets and sponsored the work on the dynasm Rust project to enable it. Wasmer runtime is also highly pluggable via middlewares. For example, we added ultra-optimal "gas metering" as a part of it. If you are curious about runtime speed (tldr: we are ahead ;) ), here are some other articles [3] [4] Hope this is useful! [0]: https://github.com/wasmerio/wasmer https://github.com/wasmerio/wasmer [1]: https://medium.com/wasmer/a-webassembly-compiler-tale-9ef37aa3b537 https://medium.com/wasmer/a-webassembly-compiler-tale-9ef37a... [2]: https://medium.com/wasmer/running-webassembly-on-arm-7d365ed0e50c https://medium.com/wasmer/running-webassembly-on-arm-7d365ed... [3]: https://00f.net/2019/10/22/updated-webassembly-benchmark/ https://00f.net/2019/10/22/updated-webassembly-benchmark/ [4]: https://medium.com/@leonardas103/experimenting-with-webassembly-in-a-serverless-context-9e320a8b669f https://medium.com/@leonardas103/experimenting-with-webassem...
- skavi 7y ago
  I was looking that up myself and came across a reddit thread [1] with a Wasmer employee seemingly equitably laying out the general differences. This, however, elicited a response from a Mozilla employee claiming it wasn’t telling “the whole story.” Does anyone know what the differences in perspective are here? [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/cx4nj3/comment/eykkieb https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/cx4nj3/comment/eykkie...
  - snek 7y ago
    wasmer used a large amount of wasmtime code without proper attribution. I'm not sure this is a problem anymore but habits die hard and the owner of the company has not been shown to be the best person (won't go into that here since it's not as tech related)
    - deleted 7y ago
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    - syrusakbary 7y ago
      We used the mmap implementation (20 lines of code) which is also reflected in our attributions :) https://github.com/wasmerio/wasmer/blob/master/ATTRIBUTIONS.md https://github.com/wasmerio/wasmer/blob/master/ATTRIBUTIONS.... Perhaps I'm missing something. Were you referring to some other code I'm not aware of?
      - snek 7y ago
        Yeah I think you're missing the part where you only added that file after being called out on twitter lol. The only reason I say "habits die hard" is because you consistently refuse to acknowledge that this ever happened.

Nowdays merged into wasmtime: https://github.com/bytecodealliance/wasmtime https://github.com/bytecodealliance/wasmtime

jacobush 7y ago

Ok, but is it cool and why? I was hoping for more comments here. :)

jeltz 7y ago

Do you know how wasmtime comapres to wasmer?

syrusakbary 7y ago
Hi, I'm Syrus (founder of Wasmer [0]). First things first: we have the deepest appreciation for Jack and the people behind the effort at lightbeam. They did a lot of amazing work on that space that inspired our work in the Singlepass compiler (similar design principles as lightbeam). On that sense, Wasmer is built to support any kind of compiler backend. We currently support Singlepass (streaming compiler), Cranelift and LLVM (for super optimal environments). [1] We also support ARM [2] chipsets and sponsored the work on the dynasm Rust project to enable it. Wasmer runtime is also highly pluggable via middlewares. For example, we added ultra-optimal "gas metering" as a part of it. If you are curious about runtime speed (tldr: we are ahead ;) ), here are some other articles [3] [4] Hope this is useful! [0]: https://github.com/wasmerio/wasmer https://github.com/wasmerio/wasmer [1]: https://medium.com/wasmer/a-webassembly-compiler-tale-9ef37aa3b537 https://medium.com/wasmer/a-webassembly-compiler-tale-9ef37a... [2]: https://medium.com/wasmer/running-webassembly-on-arm-7d365ed0e50c https://medium.com/wasmer/running-webassembly-on-arm-7d365ed... [3]: https://00f.net/2019/10/22/updated-webassembly-benchmark/ https://00f.net/2019/10/22/updated-webassembly-benchmark/ [4]: https://medium.com/@leonardas103/experimenting-with-webassembly-in-a-serverless-context-9e320a8b669f https://medium.com/@leonardas103/experimenting-with-webassem...
skavi 7y ago
I was looking that up myself and came across a reddit thread [1] with a Wasmer employee seemingly equitably laying out the general differences. This, however, elicited a response from a Mozilla employee claiming it wasn’t telling “the whole story.” Does anyone know what the differences in perspective are here? [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/cx4nj3/comment/eykkieb https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/cx4nj3/comment/eykkie...
- snek 7y ago
  wasmer used a large amount of wasmtime code without proper attribution. I'm not sure this is a problem anymore but habits die hard and the owner of the company has not been shown to be the best person (won't go into that here since it's not as tech related)
  - deleted 7y ago
    [deleted]
  - syrusakbary 7y ago
    We used the mmap implementation (20 lines of code) which is also reflected in our attributions :) https://github.com/wasmerio/wasmer/blob/master/ATTRIBUTIONS.md https://github.com/wasmerio/wasmer/blob/master/ATTRIBUTIONS.... Perhaps I'm missing something. Were you referring to some other code I'm not aware of?
    - snek 7y ago
      Yeah I think you're missing the part where you only added that file after being called out on twitter lol. The only reason I say "habits die hard" is because you consistently refuse to acknowledge that this ever happened.