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This is a excellent case of the total failure of the media. Iran had obviously lost total control two days ago. Yet the media is still going on about South Ko

This is a excellent case of the total failure of the media. Iran had obviously lost total control two days ago. Yet the media is still going on about South Korean and Italy, it seems clueless. We also need the immediate relaxation of sanctions around this on Iran. I 'think' WHO might be breaking some sanctions by currently helping Iran.

bilekas 7y ago
Lets blame the media ? What are you talking about. The media is reporting whats happening as it gets it, if Iran's media is being silenced that got nothing to do with the virus itself and more about the control of panic. > We also need the immediate relaxation of sanctions around this on Iran I'm pretty sure the WHO couldn't give a rats about US sanctions when it comes to human rights and world health.
- aaron695 7y ago
  > The media is reporting whats happening as it gets it, No they simply are not. Should I be watching Fox? Iran has 12 people dead atm. This is unheard of in any country other than China. We have known this high toll for 3 days. Last Friday is was thought to be 9! Who has headlined this? CNN has Italy and South Korea as it's headlines right now and today, they pail in comparison to Iran. This is not a high toll, this is out of control spread of the disease. I feel like this is a clown world. Korea and Italy are not the same as what's going on in Iran. It's taken this latest report of 50, to make any headway in the news. As to the WHO not caring I doubt that, but it's still not the point, companies need to be able to free allow supplies in. I don't know what sanctions are in place but companies for instance that supply gasses like oxygen need to know they are allowed to export it to Iran and how do they receive funds? Why does this article not mention the sanctions if the media is on top of this? Yes I blame the media. https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2020/02/23/619365/Iran-coronavirus-outbreak-test-kits-sanctions https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2020/02/23/619365/Iran-corona...
  - senordevnyc 7y ago
    The NY Times app has consistently had the outbreak in one of the top 2-3 spots for weeks now. Their live updates listed right now show official figures from Iran, Italy, and South Korea, as well as news about China and global markets reacting to the news. I’ve been closely watching both the NYT and the more panic-driven subreddits for a month now and I haven’t seen anything of substance that the NYT has missed. They usually lag by minutes to as much as a day, likely because they’re actually fact-checking instead of just mashing the post button like Reddit. If you’re looking for large news organizations to freak out about every little unsubstantiated rumor or crackpot theory that circulates the web, then I don’t know what to tell you. Except that you’re willfully ignoring the 90% of the time those crackpot ideas turn out to be wrong and spreading them to billions of people would do far more harm than good, especially compared to just waiting to get the facts straight.
  - bilekas 7y ago
    You can follow the WHO records themselves. https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/situation-reports/ https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2... I'm not sure why you're getting upset/annoyed with the media. They're not going to cure / help with anything other than information. No need for the tinfoil hat.
  - yyyk 7y ago
    The reason the sanctions are not mentioned is because the sanctions have no effect here - all medical supplies are allowed. The problem is a regime which is utterly indifferent to its populace and intentionally delayed disease response for political purposes. As one report has it: "Iranian officials have remained outwardly calm. An official with the Health Ministry told Javan newspaper that the majority of those who have been infected with the coronavirus do not need special care and will recover, adding that only 3% of those infected are likely to die from the virus."[0] "Only" 3% => 2.4 million people if entire population is eventually infected. If "only" 5% are eventually infected that's 120,000 people. That level of criminal indifference is an argument for stricter sanctions against the regime eventually... [0] https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2020/02/iran-coronavirus-outbreak-qom-elections.html https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2020/02/iran-coro...

bilekas 7y ago

Lets blame the media ? What are you talking about. The media is reporting whats happening as it gets it, if Iran's media is being silenced that got nothing to do with the virus itself and more about the control of panic. > We also need the immediate relaxation of sanctions around this on Iran I'm pretty sure the WHO couldn't give a rats about US sanctions when it comes to human rights and world health.

aaron695 7y ago
> The media is reporting whats happening as it gets it, No they simply are not. Should I be watching Fox? Iran has 12 people dead atm. This is unheard of in any country other than China. We have known this high toll for 3 days. Last Friday is was thought to be 9! Who has headlined this? CNN has Italy and South Korea as it's headlines right now and today, they pail in comparison to Iran. This is not a high toll, this is out of control spread of the disease. I feel like this is a clown world. Korea and Italy are not the same as what's going on in Iran. It's taken this latest report of 50, to make any headway in the news. As to the WHO not caring I doubt that, but it's still not the point, companies need to be able to free allow supplies in. I don't know what sanctions are in place but companies for instance that supply gasses like oxygen need to know they are allowed to export it to Iran and how do they receive funds? Why does this article not mention the sanctions if the media is on top of this? Yes I blame the media. https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2020/02/23/619365/Iran-coronavirus-outbreak-test-kits-sanctions https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2020/02/23/619365/Iran-corona...
- senordevnyc 7y ago
  The NY Times app has consistently had the outbreak in one of the top 2-3 spots for weeks now. Their live updates listed right now show official figures from Iran, Italy, and South Korea, as well as news about China and global markets reacting to the news. I’ve been closely watching both the NYT and the more panic-driven subreddits for a month now and I haven’t seen anything of substance that the NYT has missed. They usually lag by minutes to as much as a day, likely because they’re actually fact-checking instead of just mashing the post button like Reddit. If you’re looking for large news organizations to freak out about every little unsubstantiated rumor or crackpot theory that circulates the web, then I don’t know what to tell you. Except that you’re willfully ignoring the 90% of the time those crackpot ideas turn out to be wrong and spreading them to billions of people would do far more harm than good, especially compared to just waiting to get the facts straight.
- bilekas 7y ago
  You can follow the WHO records themselves. https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/situation-reports/ https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2... I'm not sure why you're getting upset/annoyed with the media. They're not going to cure / help with anything other than information. No need for the tinfoil hat.
- yyyk 7y ago
  The reason the sanctions are not mentioned is because the sanctions have no effect here - all medical supplies are allowed. The problem is a regime which is utterly indifferent to its populace and intentionally delayed disease response for political purposes. As one report has it: "Iranian officials have remained outwardly calm. An official with the Health Ministry told Javan newspaper that the majority of those who have been infected with the coronavirus do not need special care and will recover, adding that only 3% of those infected are likely to die from the virus."[0] "Only" 3% => 2.4 million people if entire population is eventually infected. If "only" 5% are eventually infected that's 120,000 people. That level of criminal indifference is an argument for stricter sanctions against the regime eventually... [0] https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2020/02/iran-coronavirus-outbreak-qom-elections.html https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2020/02/iran-coro...