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It sounds great until the govt decides you aren't viable, or you're to old or young to be worth financials strain put upon the system. Perhaps you're of the wr

It sounds great until the govt decides you aren't viable, or you're to old or young to be worth financials strain put upon the system. Perhaps you're of the wrong political, religious or cultural persuasion and a bureaucrat determines that you aren't selected for treatment. Ultimately, the people get what they deserve i suppose.

duckMuppet 7y ago
Of course, we could always have nurses and PAs do more surgeries. Personally, i like the idea of a Bernie bro telling someone that it isn't worth trying to save their kid, it just might help them let go. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/24/nurses-carry-surgery-nhs-plans-slash-waiting-times/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/24/nurses-carry-sur...
digitaltrees 7y ago
...So we let private for profit companies decide instead. And also have large competing bureaucracies that have incomplete networks of providers cobble together care.
digitaltrees 7y ago
There will always be rationing. The system now masks the rationing by creating incomplete networks of providers. People then pretend that we have unlimited choice with no rationing.
lou1306 7y ago
Is there proof that something like this actually happens in countries with universal healthcare? Is there proof it is actually worse than the current US system, where people with preexisting conditions or other risk factors are routinely denied coverage? Otherwise, this is just plain FUD.
mcv 7y ago
> "It sounds great until the govt decides you aren't viable, or you're to old or young to be worth financials strain put upon the system." I think you mean "insurance company", not "govt", there. Private insurers in the US have a history of doing stuff like this. Government-run health insurance systems tend to cover everybody with a lot less red tape than this.
FranzFerdiNaN 7y ago
This comments says so much about you, and how you would love to withhold healthcare from ''those people''. Your comment says nothing about having universal healthcare.

duckMuppet 7y ago

Of course, we could always have nurses and PAs do more surgeries. Personally, i like the idea of a Bernie bro telling someone that it isn't worth trying to save their kid, it just might help them let go. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/24/nurses-carry-surgery-nhs-plans-slash-waiting-times/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/24/nurses-carry-sur...

digitaltrees 7y ago

...So we let private for profit companies decide instead. And also have large competing bureaucracies that have incomplete networks of providers cobble together care.

digitaltrees 7y ago

There will always be rationing. The system now masks the rationing by creating incomplete networks of providers. People then pretend that we have unlimited choice with no rationing.

lou1306 7y ago

Is there proof that something like this actually happens in countries with universal healthcare? Is there proof it is actually worse than the current US system, where people with preexisting conditions or other risk factors are routinely denied coverage? Otherwise, this is just plain FUD.

mcv 7y ago

> "It sounds great until the govt decides you aren't viable, or you're to old or young to be worth financials strain put upon the system." I think you mean "insurance company", not "govt", there. Private insurers in the US have a history of doing stuff like this. Government-run health insurance systems tend to cover everybody with a lot less red tape than this.

FranzFerdiNaN 7y ago

This comments says so much about you, and how you would love to withhold healthcare from ''those people''. Your comment says nothing about having universal healthcare.