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Of the $29k in repairs, over a quarter of it is just periodic new tires yet they don't break that out in the article. I was saddened to see that key fobs are a
by jws 7y ago
Of the $29k in repairs, over a quarter of it is just periodic new tires yet they don't break that out in the article.
I was saddened to see that key fobs are about $150 (and he needed 6 of them). That's the kind of pricing jackassery that I would not expect from Tesla. The number of fobs is about right, I've worn my Ford's fob button out in about 120k miles, but 3rd party chip keys are $5 and 3rd party fobs are $5. It seems like a 15x markup for a required, consumable item is bit "Detroit".
- IB885588 7y agoToyota Corolla keyfobs are like $400 CAD, last I checked.
- NotSammyHagar 7y ago$5 seems unrealistically low. The Tesla keys supposably have higher security, I remember they changed the software to address some vulnerability. My fobs each serviced 4 years w.o. breaking over 4 years
- internet_user 7y agobank cards with identical security (secure element) cost well under $5, in bulk maybe even under a dollar.
- greglindahl 7y agoIt's as if price and cost are different! Subaru wanted to charge me too much to replace a fob, last time I asked.
- internet_user 7y agoThe price of bank cards to users is blended into the product, however, some charge a low single dollar digits for frequent replacements. It's not at all unexpected a key card for a Tesla would be low. Seems to be $25, which is much cheaper than most remote keys. https://shop.tesla.com/product/model-3-key-card https://shop.tesla.com/product/model-3-key-card
- odensc 7y agoThat's for two cards as well, so only ~$12/ea. Pretty reasonable.
- Kirby64 7y agoNot identical security method though. This is over bluetooth and has way more electronics in it than a chip-and-pin card. By comparison, the NFC-based 'Keycards' that the Tesla Model 3 has can be replaced for $6 each.
- internet_user 7y agobank cards can be tapped on NFC terminals: ISO/IEC 14443 What is the security model delta here?
- asdff 7y agoNow how about the universal fob at autozone
- swarnie_ 7y agoHow do universal fobs work? Do they pair with your car in some way?
- petercooper 7y agoI've just paid £500 ($650 USD) to replace a lost Land Rover key and only they can program them against the car. We needed two but I decided to stick to just the one(!)
- m463 7y agoI think that reflects the fob price, afaik tesla doesn't make them themselves. Meanwhile the model 3 rfid cards are $5. Not an apples:apple comparison with the 3rd party ford fobs - where they've had decades to copy them.
- new_realist 7y agoThe Model X (and S) eats tires at a prodigious rate. It’s unnatural.
- nitrogen 7y agoIs there a way to change the torque curve and maybe steering geometry when you want to save tires, and then switch back to ludicrous mode when it's time to burn rubber?
- ricw 7y agoYes. You turn acceleration setting onto chill mode.
- manicdee 7y agoI have had anecdotal evidence that chill mode reduces Tesla-specific car sickness too. The armchair scientist explanation is that the aggressive modes respond to every tiny adjustment of the accelerator pedal with “instant” changes in torque. All these small changes lead to motion sickness even in people who don’t normally suffer it, Chill Mode on the other hand seems to reduce the micro adjustments by eg: smoothing out the accelerator setting by averaging over a few seconds.
- greglindahl 7y agoThis is not true. The performance models with performance tires eat tires just like every other high-performance car with high-performance tires. Ordinary Teslas with stock tires don't.
- mdorazio 7y agoI’m also really surprised they don’t break out tire costs. Compared to a normal SUV, the frequency of replacements here is insane and Model X recommended tires are not cheap. This is a large cost factor many people don’t consider with Teslas- they are extremely heavy, but sit on performance tires. It’s a recipe for spending money. Overall, though, these costs are very reasonable on a per-mile basis for a luxury car.
- manicdee 7y agoThe main reason S and X chew through tyres is the driver activating “electric smile mode” which is where depressing the accelerator pedal causes driver and passengers to smile. Rapid acceleration and deceleration will wear tyres faster. There will be a large negative correlation between “area on power graph shown in orange” and “longevity of tyres.”
- chrisseaton 7y agoWhat is this ‘electric smile mode’ I can’t find it through searching.
- cyphar 7y agoThey're coyly referring to "ludicrous speed" -- the mode where you can accelerate from 0-100km/h in less than 3 seconds.
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- guidedlight 7y agoAlso it’s a rental. So lots of random drivers that want to push the car more than it normally would. 400k for a rental car is insane. Most petrol rental cars would be scrap in a third of that amount.
- manicdee 7y ago
- omarforgotpwd 7y agolatest Tesla models don't need a key at all phone + bluetooth is the primary key and keycards cost $10
- neurostimulant 7y agoAren't keyless fobs more expensive in general? My Honda dealership also sell keyless fobs at that price. Is there any manufacturer that sell keyless fob relatively cheap?