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Not to mention the performance penalty you'll pay by trying to process that data (camera images, video feeds, accelerometer data) in Javascript. Some types of

Not to mention the performance penalty you'll pay by trying to process that data (camera images, video feeds, accelerometer data) in Javascript. Some types of apps might work okay as a mobile web app (Facebook comes to mind), but there are definitely many native apps that simply aren't feasible to do in HTML5. Can you imagine Word Lens being implemented as a web app? Yeah, I didn't think so.

Getahobby 16y ago
That is pretty much why I said "most". There are some legitimate native apps out there. You named one.
code_duck 16y ago
Of course I can imagine Word Lens being implemented as a web app. Perhaps not at this moment, but within 5 years? And what about technologies like NaCl? It is shortsighted to take such a view of applications that exist within a browser.
- dusing 16y ago
  And in 5 years where will native apps be?
  - 6ren 16y ago
    Yes, they'll be even faster; but the question is whether that performance will still be in demand in 5 years (over, time-to-market, say). Native apps haven't been in demand on the desktop for a while, and smartphones are getting faster all the time. It seems that will be dual core, 1 GHz this year. How long before performance becomes a non-issue?
    - benologist 16y ago
      Quad core this year. Saw it on Mashable the other week.
      - 6ren 16y ago
        http://mashable.com/2011/02/14/qualcomm-snapdragon-2011/# http://mashable.com/2011/02/14/qualcomm-snapdragon-2011/# Quad core is inevitable, it's just a question of when. They say 2012 for the chips in that article; but not when for devices using it. Dual core devices are scheduled early this year. They also mention 2.5GHz - the big issue is power usage. I guess you you can turn off 3, and underclock when not needed.
- rsandhu 16y ago
  In 5 years? Well that is an eternity in the mobile space and you are probably right, there is likely going to be a shift to a standard approach to app (web or native) development. What if a virtual machine such as the JVM existed for both Android and iOS was standard/consistent enough to write cross platform apps? This topic is very popular amongst hackers lately. I find the web developers in particular resist the native app trend, to avoid Objective-C (iOS) and Java (Android). Typical web developer lives in Javascript and a chosen high level language (Ruby, Python) on the server side.
  - Getahobby 16y ago
    Writes once, run everywhere has been promised forever and delivered never.

Getahobby 16y ago

That is pretty much why I said "most". There are some legitimate native apps out there. You named one.

code_duck 16y ago

Of course I can imagine Word Lens being implemented as a web app. Perhaps not at this moment, but within 5 years? And what about technologies like NaCl? It is shortsighted to take such a view of applications that exist within a browser.

dusing 16y ago
And in 5 years where will native apps be?
- 6ren 16y ago
  Yes, they'll be even faster; but the question is whether that performance will still be in demand in 5 years (over, time-to-market, say). Native apps haven't been in demand on the desktop for a while, and smartphones are getting faster all the time. It seems that will be dual core, 1 GHz this year. How long before performance becomes a non-issue?
  - benologist 16y ago
    Quad core this year. Saw it on Mashable the other week.
    - 6ren 16y ago
      http://mashable.com/2011/02/14/qualcomm-snapdragon-2011/# http://mashable.com/2011/02/14/qualcomm-snapdragon-2011/# Quad core is inevitable, it's just a question of when. They say 2012 for the chips in that article; but not when for devices using it. Dual core devices are scheduled early this year. They also mention 2.5GHz - the big issue is power usage. I guess you you can turn off 3, and underclock when not needed.
rsandhu 16y ago
In 5 years? Well that is an eternity in the mobile space and you are probably right, there is likely going to be a shift to a standard approach to app (web or native) development. What if a virtual machine such as the JVM existed for both Android and iOS was standard/consistent enough to write cross platform apps? This topic is very popular amongst hackers lately. I find the web developers in particular resist the native app trend, to avoid Objective-C (iOS) and Java (Android). Typical web developer lives in Javascript and a chosen high level language (Ruby, Python) on the server side.
- Getahobby 16y ago
  Writes once, run everywhere has been promised forever and delivered never.