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Well, if the software is paid in full, there are no ads.

Erlich_Bachman 7y ago
What version of Windows do people need to buy for it to (right after the installation, with no additional tweaking) have the telemetry keylogger turned off and no ads in start menu and no adware or links to other Microsoft's products there? I've been looking for such a version for a long time.
- vezycash 7y ago
  The version with least telemetry is Enterprise Version. It's not sold to individuals. Only way is torrent. Although some once wrote here that he got his off eBay.
- jevgeni 7y ago
  In no version do you have a "keylogger".
  - Erlich_Bachman 7y ago
    Ok sure they call it "telemetry". It still sends the keys I press to some remote server for "analysis". What difference does the name make?
    - jevgeni 7y ago
      It sends the keys you type in Cortana search, AFAIK. Thinking it logs all your keys is another kind of tinfoil hat crazy.
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alxlaz 7y ago
This is not true. I have Win 10 Pro on my work laptop. It's very much "paid in full". Some of the things I paid in full for include Bubble Witch 3 Saga, Candy Crush Saga and Candy Crush Friends, and the Start menu came pre-populated with a bunch of ads for similarly useful apps (edit: among other things). Edit: if someone who's more Windows-savvy than this ol' Unix nerd knows what information I ought to edit out of a screenshot so that I can safely share it, I have the screenshot, too. This "if you pay for Win 10 Pro there are no ads" crap pops up every single damn time so I took a screenshot of my laptop's untouched Win 10 Pro installation.
- pjmlp 7y ago
  Apparently when a GNU/Linux installation shows messages to try out stuff, it is "spreading the good for the community", or has a modified motd, when one gets a couple of links on the start menu, easily removed by right clicking on them, it is "bloody Microsoft".
  - alxlaz 7y ago
    I'm not sure how that's relevant here. Does my post say anything about what Ubuntu does being excusable in any way? Edit: also, FWIW, running apt-get upgrade doesn't re-enable the ads in the MOTD :-)
    - jevgeni 7y ago
      The whataboutism defense is absolutely failing at this point. If there was material criticism on HN of say Ubuntu or other providers for the same stuff Microsoft gets criticized your words might've been credible. But there isn't and they are not. Pretending to be fair and objective is not the same thing as being fair and objective.
      - alxlaz 7y ago
        Whataboutism is a logical fallacy even when the "what about" thing doesn't get enough attention. If Ubuntu got more criticism on HN, would the ads you see on Windows become less intrusive, or more appropriate? But FWIW, Ubuntu absolutely got, and still gets, plenty of criticism for that, even here on HN.

What version of Windows do people need to buy for it to (right after the installation, with no additional tweaking) have the telemetry keylogger turned off and no ads in start menu and no adware or links to other Microsoft's products there? I've been looking for such a version for a long time.

vezycash 7y ago
The version with least telemetry is Enterprise Version. It's not sold to individuals. Only way is torrent. Although some once wrote here that he got his off eBay.
jevgeni 7y ago
In no version do you have a "keylogger".
- Erlich_Bachman 7y ago
  Ok sure they call it "telemetry". It still sends the keys I press to some remote server for "analysis". What difference does the name make?
  - jevgeni 7y ago
    It sends the keys you type in Cortana search, AFAIK. Thinking it logs all your keys is another kind of tinfoil hat crazy.
    - deleted 7y ago
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alxlaz 7y ago

This is not true. I have Win 10 Pro on my work laptop. It's very much "paid in full". Some of the things I paid in full for include Bubble Witch 3 Saga, Candy Crush Saga and Candy Crush Friends, and the Start menu came pre-populated with a bunch of ads for similarly useful apps (edit: among other things). Edit: if someone who's more Windows-savvy than this ol' Unix nerd knows what information I ought to edit out of a screenshot so that I can safely share it, I have the screenshot, too. This "if you pay for Win 10 Pro there are no ads" crap pops up every single damn time so I took a screenshot of my laptop's untouched Win 10 Pro installation.

pjmlp 7y ago
Apparently when a GNU/Linux installation shows messages to try out stuff, it is "spreading the good for the community", or has a modified motd, when one gets a couple of links on the start menu, easily removed by right clicking on them, it is "bloody Microsoft".
- alxlaz 7y ago
  I'm not sure how that's relevant here. Does my post say anything about what Ubuntu does being excusable in any way? Edit: also, FWIW, running apt-get upgrade doesn't re-enable the ads in the MOTD :-)
  - jevgeni 7y ago
    The whataboutism defense is absolutely failing at this point. If there was material criticism on HN of say Ubuntu or other providers for the same stuff Microsoft gets criticized your words might've been credible. But there isn't and they are not. Pretending to be fair and objective is not the same thing as being fair and objective.
    - alxlaz 7y ago
      Whataboutism is a logical fallacy even when the "what about" thing doesn't get enough attention. If Ubuntu got more criticism on HN, would the ads you see on Windows become less intrusive, or more appropriate? But FWIW, Ubuntu absolutely got, and still gets, plenty of criticism for that, even here on HN.