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Sounds like a nerve has been struck to be honest.
by rognjen 7y ago
Sounds like a nerve has been struck to be honest.
- coldtea 7y agoYes, racist imposition of cultural norms to the world at large tends to strike some nerves...
- shijie 7y agoInvoking racism on someone who disagrees with you isn’t usually a hallmark of the intellectually honest.
- coldtea 7y agoStrawman arguments aren't "usually a hallmark of the intellectually honest" either. I didn't randomly invoke racism. I made an argument which you omit here: that the concept of punctuality is cultural and relative, and that the author's blanket "You Are Rude and Selfish" is thus racist. The same exact accusation has been used historically to create the "lazy" / "laid-back" black, middle eastern, latino, african, etc stereotype...
- slowmovintarget 7y agoCulture is not race. Imposing one's cultural norms on people of other cultures, while distasteful, is not racist, it is merely insensitive. Feeling offended doesn't mean racism is afoot.
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- rognjen 7y agoIf you want to coordinate 10 people being at the same place at it's racist to expect everyone to be on time? Surely you see how that's a laughable argument.
- geofft 7y agoWhat's wrong with that? (This seems about as fallacious/irrelevant of a counterargument as "Quit being so emotional," "Are you triggered," etc.) "You are rude and selfish" is a provocative title. (Some may even call it clickbait.) That someone is provoked by it doesn't mean that the article is correct, just that it's provocative. How do the actual arguments and counterarguments hold up against each other?
- rognjen 7y agoThe op is invoking racism and colonialism because the article struck a nerve in the sense that they feel criticised that they aren't on time. Surely that's not an ideal argument. That's what I meant.
- coldtea 7y agoThe concept of punctuality in modern society (and how and why it was enforced, and where its culturally applicable and where not) is more broad that this or that individual being punctual or not. It can grind one's gears (speaking of which, a classic example of critique against the mechanization of time in modern capitalism was "Modern Times" and its iconic clock scene) whether they are punctual or not. In this case, the absolute tone of TFA is what struck me. Besides, the value of "struck a nerve" as an argument is close to zero. One could say just it as well against a doctor that rants against an anti-vaxing comment for example. Doesn't mean the doctor is wrong.