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That's weird. I find people with kids care more about personal and professional development, and are more diligent in their work. This might have to do with th
by dancek 7y ago
That's weird. I find people with kids care more about personal and professional development, and are more diligent in their work.
This might have to do with the environment I'm in (7,5 hour days with almost no overtime; recruiting motivated people).
I also personally feel I've become more responsible in all areas of my life after having kids.
Edit: I'm mid thirties too. I find the least responsible people to be those in their 50s with no kids. But I've only met a few who remained developers; most either have kids or switched to management.
- yibg 7y agoI’ve observed the same. Some of the most productive engineers are those with kids. Difference is they focus on getting their work done and doing it well (so they don’t get paged at night for instance) instead of chasing the new shiny, or being the hero.
- vsareto 7y agoAt least one conclusion from this thread is that there are camps of people with different beliefs, and you're senior to one camp, but not another. A productive engineer, or not. Even if you take this feedback to heart, you have a limited sample set of signals. Do you average them out, or do you only care about what one particular camp said (the camp that signs your check, perhaps)? Which camps get weighted more heavily? I don't think there are any real trends to observe yet. The field is too volatile with its labeling to really take seriously any kind of prescribed career plan to seniority that lasts beyond 3-5 years. It's also why we repeatedly test people in interviews.
- yibg 7y agoI think the reality right now is people go to the "camp" where they fit more comfortably. Older engineers with kids that want to work their 9-5, get work done and go home gravitate towards companies that are friendly to it.