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It’s telling that you try and pull the whole socialism card and not Sanders’ actual numbers, where he does things like beat Trump with independents by 18 points

It’s telling that you try and pull the whole socialism card and not Sanders’ actual numbers, where he does things like beat Trump with independents by 18 points: https://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/mkt/13/1950/1919/Topline%20Reuters%202020%20Election%20Tracker%2002%2010%202020.pdf https://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/mkt/13/1950/1919/Topli... Leads with Latino voters, is first or second with African American voters, depending on the polling, and is literally the most popular senator in the country: https://morningconsult.com/senator-rankings/ https://morningconsult.com/senator-rankings/ You’re supposition that there’s going to be some outbreak of pearl clutching about “socialism” is about as plausible that Bloomberg isn’t buying the election.

rayiner 7y ago
I don’t think the national polling at this stage is elucidating. It’s like Biden’s numbers in the Democratic primary. Once the campaigning and debates started, and people became familiar with the candidate, his poll numbers collapsed. That’s why I’m pointing to the polling for socialism. My projection is that Trump will be very effective at making the election a referendum on socialism. It’s going to be wall to wall ads of Sanders’ praise of the USSR, Venezuela, etc. When that starts, I think Sanders’ poll numbers are going to collapse.
- claudeganon 7y ago
  Respectfully, this is as much unfounded speculation as any other questioning of national polling. You’re free to your skepticism of it, but you can’t base arguments on a cherry picking of that skepticism. I think Sanders will have an uphill battle against Trump (as would any of the primary candidates), but the Democrats are guaranteed to lose if he wins a plurality, they broker the convention, pick someone else, and disenfranchise Sanders’ massive base of support. And that is the documented outcome Bloomberg is pursuing: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/20/bloomberg-brokered-convention-strategy-116407 https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/20/bloomberg-brokered-...

rayiner 7y ago

I don’t think the national polling at this stage is elucidating. It’s like Biden’s numbers in the Democratic primary. Once the campaigning and debates started, and people became familiar with the candidate, his poll numbers collapsed. That’s why I’m pointing to the polling for socialism. My projection is that Trump will be very effective at making the election a referendum on socialism. It’s going to be wall to wall ads of Sanders’ praise of the USSR, Venezuela, etc. When that starts, I think Sanders’ poll numbers are going to collapse.

claudeganon 7y ago
Respectfully, this is as much unfounded speculation as any other questioning of national polling. You’re free to your skepticism of it, but you can’t base arguments on a cherry picking of that skepticism. I think Sanders will have an uphill battle against Trump (as would any of the primary candidates), but the Democrats are guaranteed to lose if he wins a plurality, they broker the convention, pick someone else, and disenfranchise Sanders’ massive base of support. And that is the documented outcome Bloomberg is pursuing: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/20/bloomberg-brokered-convention-strategy-116407 https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/20/bloomberg-brokered-...