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> If you’re going to sell on Amazon or elsewhere, take an actual video of you packing the camera. You need all the defense you can get against items mysteriousl

> If you’re going to sell on Amazon or elsewhere, take an actual video of you packing the camera. You need all the defense you can get against items mysteriously disappearing. Isn't this evidence just as bad as the buyer's account that he didn't receive any accessories? One could just unpack the box right after filming.

wtallis 7y ago
> Isn't this evidence just as bad as the buyer's account that he didn't receive any accessories? No, of course not. Buyer didn't provide any details about what was missing or what was received. This isn't a level he-said/she-said, it's one party being forthcoming and the other evasive. Both parties had equal opportunity to lie, but only one put in effort to appear honest. Amazon should at least hold their scammers to a higher standard.
- TheSpiceIsLife 7y ago
  I think the parent comment meant in the general sense, not this specific case.
_underfl0w_ 7y ago
I think this every time someone suggests filming part of the transaction. Nowhere does video of an action imply that it was not immediately undone right after filming.
- lstamour 7y ago
  But the same might be true if you filmed the entire transaction. The only way you’d have proof is if you hand deliver it the entire way and as you validate with the buyer that everything works at that point and the transaction is over. Even then, the third-party holding the funds in escrow has to be satisfied or you could have a buyer disagree and say that was a different transaction than the one it applied to, a different camera...
- Can_Not 7y ago
  Just roll the camera all the way to the mail drop.
dmitrygr 7y ago
pack in fedex store, film handing it over to store employee and keep filming until they scan the box in. their tracking will show them receiving box. at that point it is in their custody and you are not getting it back so you cannot re-open it.
uberduber 7y ago
I do this on high value items. I pack the item in the car though for safety and film continuously until drop-off.

wtallis 7y ago

> Isn't this evidence just as bad as the buyer's account that he didn't receive any accessories? No, of course not. Buyer didn't provide any details about what was missing or what was received. This isn't a level he-said/she-said, it's one party being forthcoming and the other evasive. Both parties had equal opportunity to lie, but only one put in effort to appear honest. Amazon should at least hold their scammers to a higher standard.

TheSpiceIsLife 7y ago
I think the parent comment meant in the general sense, not this specific case.

_underfl0w_ 7y ago

I think this every time someone suggests filming part of the transaction. Nowhere does video of an action imply that it was not immediately undone right after filming.

lstamour 7y ago
But the same might be true if you filmed the entire transaction. The only way you’d have proof is if you hand deliver it the entire way and as you validate with the buyer that everything works at that point and the transaction is over. Even then, the third-party holding the funds in escrow has to be satisfied or you could have a buyer disagree and say that was a different transaction than the one it applied to, a different camera...
Can_Not 7y ago
Just roll the camera all the way to the mail drop.

dmitrygr 7y ago

pack in fedex store, film handing it over to store employee and keep filming until they scan the box in. their tracking will show them receiving box. at that point it is in their custody and you are not getting it back so you cannot re-open it.

uberduber 7y ago

I do this on high value items. I pack the item in the car though for safety and film continuously until drop-off.