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>> we're still left with the fact that people unintentionally accelerate their vehicles all the goddamn time. Again, do they do this by 50+mph ALL THE GODDAMN

>> we're still left with the fact that people unintentionally accelerate their vehicles all the goddamn time. Again, do they do this by 50+mph ALL THE GODDAMN TIME? >> If a machine does it once in a while, that's not a regression, that's the baseline. If all the machines do it at once though? The impact of self-driving failing is a lot more than 1 person, typically. Also, we dont know the rate of error. There are 1.2 Billion drivers in the world. 3.5 Billions smartphone users. Its safe to say 50% of drivers use GPS. So 600 Millions Drivers using GPS? There arent even 1 million Tesla's on the road yet and they are already having incidents.

ebg13 7y ago
> Again, do they do this by 50+mph ALL THE GODDAMN TIME? No. Usually they crash into something first. I can tell you one personal anecdote, though, where in 1995 the gas pedal in my truck actually got physically stuck in the down position and I had to hold the brake pedal down with one foot while wedging my other foot underneath the gas pedal to loosen it. Of course I could only do this after the several (5 or 6?) seconds it took for me to understand what was happening and then react. 6 seconds is a long time to react to a catastrophic event. Humans aren't great at it. We almost always do the wrong thing. We turn the wrong way. We push the wrong pedal. We don't understand our surroundings. We ignore our surroundings. Anyway. Please note I'm not saying that this isn't a failure of the nav system. It is. I'm saying that anyone claiming that humans are magically immune is wrong because humans are very dumb and make dumb mistakes all of the time.
- reidjs 7y ago
  Why not just pop it into neutral?
  - ebg13 7y ago
    Panic and adrenaline? I think you must have missed the part where I said "humans are very dumb and make dumb mistakes all of the time".
- pintxo 7y ago
  One important thing all drivers should be repeatedly told (trained) is that the breaks (in a technically sound car) will always overpower the engine. In a runaway scenario, hit the break with full force and stay on it till engine cutoff.

ebg13 7y ago

> Again, do they do this by 50+mph ALL THE GODDAMN TIME? No. Usually they crash into something first. I can tell you one personal anecdote, though, where in 1995 the gas pedal in my truck actually got physically stuck in the down position and I had to hold the brake pedal down with one foot while wedging my other foot underneath the gas pedal to loosen it. Of course I could only do this after the several (5 or 6?) seconds it took for me to understand what was happening and then react. 6 seconds is a long time to react to a catastrophic event. Humans aren't great at it. We almost always do the wrong thing. We turn the wrong way. We push the wrong pedal. We don't understand our surroundings. We ignore our surroundings. Anyway. Please note I'm not saying that this isn't a failure of the nav system. It is. I'm saying that anyone claiming that humans are magically immune is wrong because humans are very dumb and make dumb mistakes all of the time.

reidjs 7y ago
Why not just pop it into neutral?
- ebg13 7y ago
  Panic and adrenaline? I think you must have missed the part where I said "humans are very dumb and make dumb mistakes all of the time".
pintxo 7y ago
One important thing all drivers should be repeatedly told (trained) is that the breaks (in a technically sound car) will always overpower the engine. In a runaway scenario, hit the break with full force and stay on it till engine cutoff.