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I was in Vietnam and saw the effect of climate change. People (millions) are moving from the Mekong Delta to Ho Chi Minh City. The Delta is being invaded by sal

I was in Vietnam and saw the effect of climate change. People (millions) are moving from the Mekong Delta to Ho Chi Minh City. The Delta is being invaded by saltwater. Agriculture is heavily impacted. The city is crowded and polluted. My view is climate change is real. Of course, I'm never heard on the internet. Bots are everywhere. :)

throwaway5752 7y ago
Yes, it's a disappointment we're discussing the discussion when the underlying phenomenon is so visible (glaciers that have disappeared. Large scale human migration because of failing agricultural productivity in N Africa, Middle East, SE Asia, Central America. Spring blooming times. Sea level rise. Ad nauseum.)
lurquer 7y ago
Many rivers feeding into the delta have been dammed, diverted for Agri, and the forest canopy has been decimated (leading to more evaporation). In any case, like all delta regions, when the freshwater flow upstream is reduced, the salinity of the delta inncreases. To blame this on climate change is silly.
- jvanderbot 7y ago
  This. Easily refuted climate change effects do way more harm than good.
nvr219 7y ago
maybe YOU ALL are bots too!
Eldandan 7y ago
Some climate change deniers will say they don't disagree it is real, but that it is man-made. I didn't know enough of the science at the time to confidently rebut the argument, so left it at that. That was the first and last time I ever argued with a friend on Facebook about something "political", but it made me reflect on the next time I argue with someone about this topic.
dntbnmpls 7y ago
> People (millions) are moving from the Mekong Delta to Ho Chi Minh City. That has nothing to do with climate change and everything to do with industrialization and urbanization. The same reason why japanese, koreans, chinese, etc moved to cities in decades past. Vietnam and other ASEAN nations are becoming the "New China" as industry moves from china to cheaper locations. So the same patterns apply. > The city is crowded and polluted. What city isn't?

throwaway5752 7y ago

Yes, it's a disappointment we're discussing the discussion when the underlying phenomenon is so visible (glaciers that have disappeared. Large scale human migration because of failing agricultural productivity in N Africa, Middle East, SE Asia, Central America. Spring blooming times. Sea level rise. Ad nauseum.)

lurquer 7y ago

Many rivers feeding into the delta have been dammed, diverted for Agri, and the forest canopy has been decimated (leading to more evaporation). In any case, like all delta regions, when the freshwater flow upstream is reduced, the salinity of the delta inncreases. To blame this on climate change is silly.

jvanderbot 7y ago
This. Easily refuted climate change effects do way more harm than good.

nvr219 7y ago

maybe YOU ALL are bots too!

Eldandan 7y ago

Some climate change deniers will say they don't disagree it is real, but that it is man-made. I didn't know enough of the science at the time to confidently rebut the argument, so left it at that. That was the first and last time I ever argued with a friend on Facebook about something "political", but it made me reflect on the next time I argue with someone about this topic.

dntbnmpls 7y ago

> People (millions) are moving from the Mekong Delta to Ho Chi Minh City. That has nothing to do with climate change and everything to do with industrialization and urbanization. The same reason why japanese, koreans, chinese, etc moved to cities in decades past. Vietnam and other ASEAN nations are becoming the "New China" as industry moves from china to cheaper locations. So the same patterns apply. > The city is crowded and polluted. What city isn't?