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Going down to a 32-hour workweek would be lovely, but I'm simply not interested in doing 4×10. I'd rather get home at a decent hour than have an extra day off.

echelon 7y ago
To each their own. My work week is spent on work and I can't really enjoy the time before or after work. I'll never enjoy M-F. I'd rather have a 4x10 than a 5x8. If my side hustle ever graduates into a startup and I start hiring other people, we're doing 4x10 or 4x9.
- domingobingo 7y ago
  What's the nature of the side hustle if you don't mind me asking?
- SuoDuanDao 7y ago
  I wonder whether the benefits decrease when the whole team does 4X10 - I found when I did 4X10 that I was much more productive for the two hours I was alone in the office. Of course, no saying everyone has to work the same 4X10.
- wobblykiwi 7y ago
  Why not try a 4x8?
  - echelon 7y ago
    Maybe so. And it might make it easier to offer as a perk when I can't offer a salary that competes with Google and Facebook.
- TrueGeek 7y ago
  Why not let your employees choose? From what I’ve seen single people love 4x10, people with kids don’t. 2 extra hours a day means my kid can’t possibly make it to practice in time 4 days a week.
  - geddy 7y ago
    No kid yet but 2 more hours working currently would guarantee that I did absolutely nothing but work and do random household bullshit for the entire time I am awake, with zero time to decompress from work. 9 hours maybe, but 10 hours? I'm a software engineer, I can't produce quality work for 10 straight hours. Most good, solid work gets done in a 4-5 hour period. 10 hours in front of a computer isn't good for anyone.
gpanders 7y ago
I work from 7-5 each day, so even when I go to the gym or run a quick errand after work I can be home by 6, which strikes me as a "decent hour", although I suppose that's subjective. Waking up at 6am takes getting used to but isn't unreasonable in my opinion.
- amyjess 7y ago
  It's pretty much impossible for me to go to sleep any earlier than 2am, so getting to work at 7 would require me to only get a couple of hours of sleep at night, which isn't nearly enough for me to function on.
  - seanalltogether 7y ago
    I used to be like that until I started forcing myself to go the the gym in the morning. It was brutal in the beginning but within about 3 or 4 weeks I was asleep at midnight every night.
- decebalus1 7y ago
  If during rush hour you can leave work at 5 then do a workout or an errand to get home by 6, then you either live in a village or you're a winged animal.
  - vonmoltke 7y ago
    Not to mention your workout must be really short.
    - decebalus1 7y ago
      Not only that, but even after years of gym going and explicitly trying to find my most efficient workflow, the shower, changing to/from workout gear and driving to/from gym, makes each workout take 2 hours (1 hour training + 1 hour logistics overhead). 2.5 hours if I talk to my gym buddies or use the sauna/hot tub.
chadlavi 7y ago
As knowledge workers (I'm assuming), I feel strongly that the number of hours we spend at work has little correlation to the amount of value we deliver. I could easily get the same amount of value delivered in 4 7-hour days that I currently do in 5 8-ish hour ones. I'm only forced to hang out at work for a certain set of hours because of... tradition I guess?
- firstplacelast 7y ago
  I work for a start-up that is non-VC funded, I work 5 days a week, but I’m only in the office 5-6 hours a day (there are some weeks where things are very busy and it’s not the case) and I occasionally work a few hours on the weekend. They’re only concerned with results and it’s a slow growing business, I am however extremely underpaid. Getting ready to take the jump to a new job with a 70% pay increase, but the last few years my life has been sweet (besides living in a very shitty apartment).
ClikeX 7y ago
4x10 would be fine by me if I'd live 10 minutes from work. But I don't think my dog would appreciate being left without a walk for 12 hours. On 32 hours now and I can handle it financially. As long as that stays the way it is I'm not changing anything.

echelon 7y ago

To each their own. My work week is spent on work and I can't really enjoy the time before or after work. I'll never enjoy M-F. I'd rather have a 4x10 than a 5x8. If my side hustle ever graduates into a startup and I start hiring other people, we're doing 4x10 or 4x9.

domingobingo 7y ago
What's the nature of the side hustle if you don't mind me asking?
SuoDuanDao 7y ago
I wonder whether the benefits decrease when the whole team does 4X10 - I found when I did 4X10 that I was much more productive for the two hours I was alone in the office. Of course, no saying everyone has to work the same 4X10.
wobblykiwi 7y ago
Why not try a 4x8?
- echelon 7y ago
  Maybe so. And it might make it easier to offer as a perk when I can't offer a salary that competes with Google and Facebook.
TrueGeek 7y ago
Why not let your employees choose? From what I’ve seen single people love 4x10, people with kids don’t. 2 extra hours a day means my kid can’t possibly make it to practice in time 4 days a week.
- geddy 7y ago
  No kid yet but 2 more hours working currently would guarantee that I did absolutely nothing but work and do random household bullshit for the entire time I am awake, with zero time to decompress from work. 9 hours maybe, but 10 hours? I'm a software engineer, I can't produce quality work for 10 straight hours. Most good, solid work gets done in a 4-5 hour period. 10 hours in front of a computer isn't good for anyone.

gpanders 7y ago

I work from 7-5 each day, so even when I go to the gym or run a quick errand after work I can be home by 6, which strikes me as a "decent hour", although I suppose that's subjective. Waking up at 6am takes getting used to but isn't unreasonable in my opinion.

amyjess 7y ago
It's pretty much impossible for me to go to sleep any earlier than 2am, so getting to work at 7 would require me to only get a couple of hours of sleep at night, which isn't nearly enough for me to function on.
- seanalltogether 7y ago
  I used to be like that until I started forcing myself to go the the gym in the morning. It was brutal in the beginning but within about 3 or 4 weeks I was asleep at midnight every night.
decebalus1 7y ago
If during rush hour you can leave work at 5 then do a workout or an errand to get home by 6, then you either live in a village or you're a winged animal.
- vonmoltke 7y ago
  Not to mention your workout must be really short.
  - decebalus1 7y ago
    Not only that, but even after years of gym going and explicitly trying to find my most efficient workflow, the shower, changing to/from workout gear and driving to/from gym, makes each workout take 2 hours (1 hour training + 1 hour logistics overhead). 2.5 hours if I talk to my gym buddies or use the sauna/hot tub.

chadlavi 7y ago

As knowledge workers (I'm assuming), I feel strongly that the number of hours we spend at work has little correlation to the amount of value we deliver. I could easily get the same amount of value delivered in 4 7-hour days that I currently do in 5 8-ish hour ones. I'm only forced to hang out at work for a certain set of hours because of... tradition I guess?

firstplacelast 7y ago
I work for a start-up that is non-VC funded, I work 5 days a week, but I’m only in the office 5-6 hours a day (there are some weeks where things are very busy and it’s not the case) and I occasionally work a few hours on the weekend. They’re only concerned with results and it’s a slow growing business, I am however extremely underpaid. Getting ready to take the jump to a new job with a 70% pay increase, but the last few years my life has been sweet (besides living in a very shitty apartment).

ClikeX 7y ago

4x10 would be fine by me if I'd live 10 minutes from work. But I don't think my dog would appreciate being left without a walk for 12 hours. On 32 hours now and I can handle it financially. As long as that stays the way it is I'm not changing anything.