> This is the bleeding edge; these devices have only been available for 13 weeks [...] Shouldn't these devices have been tested by AMD and motherboard manufact

> This is the bleeding edge; these devices have only been available for 13 weeks [...] Shouldn't these devices have been tested by AMD and motherboard manufacturers for months before they were released? Including on workloads like Prime95 which are well known to uncover system instabilities. Keep in mind also that this is not the first time in the Zen/Zen2 history that AMD has shipped buggy products: there was the segfault bug, the random number generator instruction bug, and the unbootable Threadripper on recent (at the time of release) Linux kernel. The worst part, to me personally, is that they were all "surface bugs" that could have been detected by AMD with a little bit of testing. I've been wondering why Supermicro isn't releasing any Threadripper motherboards (while they do for Xeon-W). Maybe this explains it: the consumer CPU business at AMD is a circus and Supermicro wants none of it?