Thanks, that makes sense and sounds similar to my experiences: Java 1.5 (I meant Java 5 :-) had been around for an awfully long time before I was able to use it

Thanks, that makes sense and sounds similar to my experiences: Java 1.5 (I meant Java 5 :-) had been around for an awfully long time before I was able to use it at work. Of course, when we actually were able to move to Java 5, it felt like a bit of an anticlimax. The new for loop and generics and autoboxing and the like are all cool and probably make Java a bit more fun to play around with but hey, I'd been playing with Python and Haskell in my spare time by this point and they're a lot more different and more pleasant to work with. I guess I'm an example of your rule because I only use Java where I have to at work now and I can't think of a personal project that I would use Java for.