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Super bugs are a mostly first world problem, rampant in top tier hospitals providing cutting edge treatments, despite following safety precautions meant to dete

Super bugs are a mostly first world problem, rampant in top tier hospitals providing cutting edge treatments, despite following safety precautions meant to deter secondary bacterial infections during or post hospitalization

DoreenMichele 7y ago
Most developing countries don't actually keep adequate data on super bugs. So we don't really know that. In 2014, the WHO released the first report on antimicrobial resistance, in which the WHO collected national data on nine bacterial infections/antibiotic combinations of greatest concern for global health.[5] The data revealed that out of 194 countries, only 129 provided data, of which only 22 had data on all nine infection-antibiotic resistance combinations deemed to be emerging global threats. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6380099/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6380099/ Anyway, this is sort of off topic because I know the article was submitted to HN for the cool factor of using artificial intelligence or machine learning or whatever, not because people are really deeply concerned about antibiotic resistant infections. So idly saying "I feel like they are barking up the wrong tree and focusing on the wrong things if they want to solve this." isn't at all welcome as part of the conversation, as evidenced by the downvotes for a really mild, brief remark. I wasn't trying to derail the discussion. I just read up some on things like antibiotic resistance because of my medical situation, so I happen to know a bit about the topic. But I'm planning on stepping away from this discussion because it seems like a pointless waste of time that's just inviting negativity from a crowd that doesn't see my comments as anything intelligent or interesting.
refurb 7y ago
Super bugs are a mostly first world problem Not true at all. There are several known resistant strains that have come out of developing countries. Why? Antibiotic use can be rampant - in many countries you can buy them without a prescription.
- mnw21cam 7y ago
  I heard someone (in the correct area of expertise) describing how he had visited a developing country and tested the water in a river downstream of an antibiotic manufacturing plant, and found the concentration of a particular antibiotic to be approximately the same as what you would typically want to achieve in the blood of a patient. If that isn't going to drive resistance to that particular antibiotic, I don't know what will.
  - perl4ever 7y ago
    People say things like this, but how many antibiotic compounds are in the soil naturally? Living creatures exist in an environment with countless bacteria and evolve to survive, and some of the compounds they produce are turned into human drugs. So I feel like there's something missing in the ordinary narrative about antibiotic resistance. Where did penicillin come from again?

DoreenMichele 7y ago

Most developing countries don't actually keep adequate data on super bugs. So we don't really know that. In 2014, the WHO released the first report on antimicrobial resistance, in which the WHO collected national data on nine bacterial infections/antibiotic combinations of greatest concern for global health.[5] The data revealed that out of 194 countries, only 129 provided data, of which only 22 had data on all nine infection-antibiotic resistance combinations deemed to be emerging global threats. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6380099/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6380099/ Anyway, this is sort of off topic because I know the article was submitted to HN for the cool factor of using artificial intelligence or machine learning or whatever, not because people are really deeply concerned about antibiotic resistant infections. So idly saying "I feel like they are barking up the wrong tree and focusing on the wrong things if they want to solve this." isn't at all welcome as part of the conversation, as evidenced by the downvotes for a really mild, brief remark. I wasn't trying to derail the discussion. I just read up some on things like antibiotic resistance because of my medical situation, so I happen to know a bit about the topic. But I'm planning on stepping away from this discussion because it seems like a pointless waste of time that's just inviting negativity from a crowd that doesn't see my comments as anything intelligent or interesting.

refurb 7y ago

Super bugs are a mostly first world problem Not true at all. There are several known resistant strains that have come out of developing countries. Why? Antibiotic use can be rampant - in many countries you can buy them without a prescription.

mnw21cam 7y ago
I heard someone (in the correct area of expertise) describing how he had visited a developing country and tested the water in a river downstream of an antibiotic manufacturing plant, and found the concentration of a particular antibiotic to be approximately the same as what you would typically want to achieve in the blood of a patient. If that isn't going to drive resistance to that particular antibiotic, I don't know what will.
- perl4ever 7y ago
  People say things like this, but how many antibiotic compounds are in the soil naturally? Living creatures exist in an environment with countless bacteria and evolve to survive, and some of the compounds they produce are turned into human drugs. So I feel like there's something missing in the ordinary narrative about antibiotic resistance. Where did penicillin come from again?