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Its foolish to think any amount of alcohol is ok for you.

undersuit 7y ago
I'm going to have to disagree, not because you're wrong but because you've gone full Sith(Never state an absolute). Alcohol is probably required for some vital chemical pathways in the body. Just because something is dangerous doesn't mean our body doesn't need it and has ways to mitigate the damage similar to how our bodies handle reactive oxygen species. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3530279 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3530279
- pen2l 7y ago
  Nearly 2 billion of world population adheres to a religion that expressly prohibits alcohol consumption, and I'm sure a very good amount out of that makes it to a ripe old age.
  - nate_meurer 7y ago
    Sure, but that wouldn't disprove the notion that alcohol might have some benefit. There is evidence that ethanol enhances the liver's ability to properly manage its fat stores, and thus might be protective against steatosis [1]. But this is controversial, and it seems that experts are largely unwilling to endorse alcohol consumption in the presence of any liver problems [2]. 1 - https://academic.oup.com/mend/article/21/10/2541/2738565 https://academic.oup.com/mend/article/21/10/2541/2738565 - He L et al. Dose dependent effects of alcohol on insulin signaling: Partial explanation for biphasic alcohol impact on human health. 2 - https://sci-hub.tw/10.1002/hep.29753 https://sci-hub.tw/10.1002/hep.29753 - Bellentani S et al. Two drinks per day does not take your fatty liver away.
    - undersuit 7y ago
      I'm also unwilling to endorse alcohol consumption, I'm just an avid reader.
  - baud147258 7y ago
    Muslims do drink alcohol. For example in Egypt there's the Stella beer.
  - brentis 7y ago
    Fair. I drank for 20yrs and clung on every last article about x drinks beneficial, how reservatol helps, etc., but at end of day I'm skeptical of who shadow funded what. We live in a consumption nation where our GDP is driven by that. I was in denial about drinking and knew it made me feel like crap. Quitting drinking was epic.
dabbledash 7y ago
I’m not sure what you mean by “ok.” Probably any amount has negative health consequences. But people have other interests besides maximizing longevity, and that’s perfectly ok as far as I’m concerned.

I'm going to have to disagree, not because you're wrong but because you've gone full Sith(Never state an absolute). Alcohol is probably required for some vital chemical pathways in the body. Just because something is dangerous doesn't mean our body doesn't need it and has ways to mitigate the damage similar to how our bodies handle reactive oxygen species. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3530279 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3530279

pen2l 7y ago
Nearly 2 billion of world population adheres to a religion that expressly prohibits alcohol consumption, and I'm sure a very good amount out of that makes it to a ripe old age.
- nate_meurer 7y ago
  Sure, but that wouldn't disprove the notion that alcohol might have some benefit. There is evidence that ethanol enhances the liver's ability to properly manage its fat stores, and thus might be protective against steatosis [1]. But this is controversial, and it seems that experts are largely unwilling to endorse alcohol consumption in the presence of any liver problems [2]. 1 - https://academic.oup.com/mend/article/21/10/2541/2738565 https://academic.oup.com/mend/article/21/10/2541/2738565 - He L et al. Dose dependent effects of alcohol on insulin signaling: Partial explanation for biphasic alcohol impact on human health. 2 - https://sci-hub.tw/10.1002/hep.29753 https://sci-hub.tw/10.1002/hep.29753 - Bellentani S et al. Two drinks per day does not take your fatty liver away.
  - undersuit 7y ago
    I'm also unwilling to endorse alcohol consumption, I'm just an avid reader.
- baud147258 7y ago
  Muslims do drink alcohol. For example in Egypt there's the Stella beer.
- brentis 7y ago
  Fair. I drank for 20yrs and clung on every last article about x drinks beneficial, how reservatol helps, etc., but at end of day I'm skeptical of who shadow funded what. We live in a consumption nation where our GDP is driven by that. I was in denial about drinking and knew it made me feel like crap. Quitting drinking was epic.

dabbledash 7y ago

I’m not sure what you mean by “ok.” Probably any amount has negative health consequences. But people have other interests besides maximizing longevity, and that’s perfectly ok as far as I’m concerned.