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> Here's just a few of the corporations that exploit prison (slave) labor: > (list) > Source: http://affinitymagazine.us/2017/06/29/heres-a-list-of-corpor.. h

> Here's just a few of the corporations that exploit prison (slave) labor: > (list) > Source: http://affinitymagazine.us/2017/06/29/heres-a-list-of-corpor.. http://affinitymagazine.us/2017/06/29/heres-a-list-of-corpor.... That article is an absolute joke. Its underlying sources too. So incredibly lacking in evidence or data to support such a huge accusation.

gpm 7y ago
At a glance the underlying source list seems quite thorough and well research, it's available here (below) and every company points to a document that proves it. It's regularly updated. Can you expand on your complaint? https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/ALEC_Corporations https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/ALEC_Corporations
- hn_throwaway_99 7y ago
  Because they are two entirely different things. It is 100% complete and total bullshit to say that a corporation who has some, often extremely tenuous, relationship with ALEC "profits from prison labor". There's plenty of real bad stuff going on that needs revealing without resorting to lying.
  - gpm 7y ago
    Ok, so your saying this article is misusing it's source list, not that the underlying source list is an absolute joke like the original throwaway I replied to is?
    - WillPostForFood 7y ago
      The underlying source is an absolute joke as well. Whether ALEC somehow benefits from prison labor or not, just because these companies may have a relationship with ALEC doesn't mean they benefit.
      - gpm 7y ago
        The source we are talking about says nothing about benefiting from prison labor, either for ALEC or the corporations that have a relationship with ALEC, so I don't understand your complaint.
        WillPostForFood 7y ago
        Yes, that's the point. I should have been more clear. It is a joke to use it as a reference to support the claim about benefitting from prison labor since it doesn't have any information on it. It may well be an accurate list of companies that have some relationship with ALEC.
      - anonsivalley652 7y ago
        I really, sincerely hope you will consider educating yourself on what ALEC is about. https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/hidden-history-alec-and-prison-labor/ https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/hidden-history-ale... https://www.truthdig.com/articles/alecs-horror-show-is-coming-to-your-hometown/ https://www.truthdig.com/articles/alecs-horror-show-is-comin...
        WillPostForFood 7y ago
        I'm not defending ALEC, but ALEC supporting something isn't evidence that Walmart benefits from it. You have to show me Walmart is using prison labor directly or indirectly. What specific products and vendors.
      - faintrain 7y ago
        You may not like the ALEC list but in some form most of the major US corporations that have existed for sometime have benefited from slavery. It’s a fact that a number of American and European institutions benefited both directly and indirectly from former and present day slavery. Some have even admitted as much. If you don’t want to read, here’s another short list: AIG, JP Morgan Chase, Bank of America, Brooks Brothers, Aetna, Lehman Brothers, Domino Sugar, Citibank, Wells Fargo, Princeton University, Columbia, Harvard, Brown, Georgetown, - https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1543861 https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=154386... - https://time.com/5013728/slavery-universities-america/ https://time.com/5013728/slavery-universities-america/ - https://www.bbc.com/news/business-49476247 https://www.bbc.com/news/business-49476247

gpm 7y ago

At a glance the underlying source list seems quite thorough and well research, it's available here (below) and every company points to a document that proves it. It's regularly updated. Can you expand on your complaint? https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/ALEC_Corporations https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/ALEC_Corporations

hn_throwaway_99 7y ago
Because they are two entirely different things. It is 100% complete and total bullshit to say that a corporation who has some, often extremely tenuous, relationship with ALEC "profits from prison labor". There's plenty of real bad stuff going on that needs revealing without resorting to lying.
- gpm 7y ago
  Ok, so your saying this article is misusing it's source list, not that the underlying source list is an absolute joke like the original throwaway I replied to is?
  - WillPostForFood 7y ago
    The underlying source is an absolute joke as well. Whether ALEC somehow benefits from prison labor or not, just because these companies may have a relationship with ALEC doesn't mean they benefit.
    - gpm 7y ago
      The source we are talking about says nothing about benefiting from prison labor, either for ALEC or the corporations that have a relationship with ALEC, so I don't understand your complaint.
      - WillPostForFood 7y ago
        Yes, that's the point. I should have been more clear. It is a joke to use it as a reference to support the claim about benefitting from prison labor since it doesn't have any information on it. It may well be an accurate list of companies that have some relationship with ALEC.
    - anonsivalley652 7y ago
      I really, sincerely hope you will consider educating yourself on what ALEC is about. https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/hidden-history-alec-and-prison-labor/ https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/hidden-history-ale... https://www.truthdig.com/articles/alecs-horror-show-is-coming-to-your-hometown/ https://www.truthdig.com/articles/alecs-horror-show-is-comin...
      - WillPostForFood 7y ago
        I'm not defending ALEC, but ALEC supporting something isn't evidence that Walmart benefits from it. You have to show me Walmart is using prison labor directly or indirectly. What specific products and vendors.
    - faintrain 7y ago
      You may not like the ALEC list but in some form most of the major US corporations that have existed for sometime have benefited from slavery. It’s a fact that a number of American and European institutions benefited both directly and indirectly from former and present day slavery. Some have even admitted as much. If you don’t want to read, here’s another short list: AIG, JP Morgan Chase, Bank of America, Brooks Brothers, Aetna, Lehman Brothers, Domino Sugar, Citibank, Wells Fargo, Princeton University, Columbia, Harvard, Brown, Georgetown, - https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1543861 https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=154386... - https://time.com/5013728/slavery-universities-america/ https://time.com/5013728/slavery-universities-america/ - https://www.bbc.com/news/business-49476247 https://www.bbc.com/news/business-49476247