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DigitalOcean has always had loads of debt, it's how you build such a capex heavy business, you use lease lines and credit.
by neom 7y ago
DigitalOcean has always had loads of debt, it's how you build such a capex heavy business, you use lease lines and credit.
- djsumdog 7y agoI wonder if they would have if they didn't have to cut prices to compete with Vultr.
- Dirlewanger 7y agoFirst time I'm hearing of Vultr...they look like a carbon copy of DO. What does Vultr have that they don't?
- porker 7y ago> What does Vultr have that they don't? According to multiple HN users, a more unreliable (internal) network.
- bluedino 7y agoIronically I moved from DO to Vultr because their network was more reliable
- dwild 7y agoVultr allow running on bare metal and they also allow access to BGP. That's both niche needs, but that's also what you expect from a smaller player, to fill niche market.
- toomuchtodo 7y agoCommodities have little differentiation between themselves. Compute alone is a commodity.
- drewnick 7y agoDO has more managed services like databases, k8s, etc. Otherwise they are very similar. Vultr has more locations in the US.
- emmanueloga_ 7y agoLast time I checked Vultr included a DDoS service [1] an DO did not. Caveat: I don't really know much about this service, maybe someone here can chime in? * I don't know how reliable it is * I don't know if a small/medium app really needs it * I don't know if you would be better off using something like cloudflare anyway * Etc... What I do know is that a long time ago I used to host some stuff on a VPS (Linode I think) and I would routinely run out of bandwidth because of traffic coming most of the time from random AWS IPs, which seemed like shady bot networks or something. Ergo having a DDoS service like this seems useful even if you are hosting a small site. 1: https://www.vultr.com/products/ddos-protection/ https://www.vultr.com/products/ddos-protection/
- kiwijamo 7y agoThey have POPs in parts of the world DO doesn't have. E.g. they have a Sydney POP which attracts customers from Australia and New Zealand. Location was pretty much the main reason why I chose Vultr over DO as I found everything else was more or less on par.
- lancepioch 7y agoBring your own ip: https://www.vultr.com/features/bgp/ https://www.vultr.com/features/bgp/
- PixyMisa 7y agoA lot more locations and some really great NVMe-based high-performance nodes.
- goatherders 7y agoAgree completely. I've been an exec for multiple low 9 figure hosts and always imagined they were larger by a wide margin.