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Otoh "Want employee loyalty? Start treating them reasonably." probably is.

by ska 7y ago

pietrovismara 7y ago
You don't treat reasonably your tools. That's how some companies see their employees.
- AceyMan 7y ago
  You believe this?—ask any tradesman, mechanic or PE—"Take care of your tools and they will take care of you" is gospel in those fields. The same, then, should apply to "living tools" if your analogy obtains.
  - dsfyu404ed 7y ago
    There's plenty of people in the trades who consider their tools disposable like work gloves but on a longer time line. In most of the western world labor is so absurdly expensive compared to material goods that it usually makes sense for anyone paid by the job (most people in the trades) to just treat tools as a cost of doing business and treat them whichever way gets the jobs done the fastest.
  - pietrovismara 7y ago
    You may care about an expensive tool as long as it works, but you'll throw it away as soon as it breaks. A tool has no rights, and you'll never care about it enjoying working for you. Yes, the analogy still work for me.
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  - ska 7y ago
    > "Take care of your tools and they will take care of you" In my increasingly out of date experience in that area, this definitely applies to "don't leave your wrenches out in the yard overnight, dummy" but usually not so far as "don't use that as a pry bar". In either case though, if the tool breaks you toss it and move on...
phkahler 7y ago
Yeah, there may have been other long term benefits that were not accounted for in the cost comparison. For example, people like to shop at places with happy employees. The commenter mentioned that the place doesnt exist any more.
redwall_hp 7y ago
Company pays minimum wage. Employees give minimum effort. Company: shockedpikachu.jpg
- Ididntdothis 7y ago
  Paying more only motivates higher level people. Lower level only respond to the stick. That’s how a lot of people seem to think.
  - ranagol 7y ago
    bullshit; Agree on that "lower-level" do not always respond linear to better wage, however that's not the only thing of motivation. What about trainings? Holidays? And not the stick...
megablast 7y ago
> Start treating them reasonably This is stupid though. Is $3 more treating them reasonably? Where is that definition?

Otoh "Want employee loyalty? Start treating them reasonably." probably is.

by ska 7y ago

Otoh "Want employee loyalty? Start treating them reasonably." probably is.

pietrovismara 7y ago

You don't treat reasonably your tools. That's how some companies see their employees.

AceyMan 7y ago
You believe this?—ask any tradesman, mechanic or PE—"Take care of your tools and they will take care of you" is gospel in those fields. The same, then, should apply to "living tools" if your analogy obtains.
- dsfyu404ed 7y ago
  There's plenty of people in the trades who consider their tools disposable like work gloves but on a longer time line. In most of the western world labor is so absurdly expensive compared to material goods that it usually makes sense for anyone paid by the job (most people in the trades) to just treat tools as a cost of doing business and treat them whichever way gets the jobs done the fastest.
- pietrovismara 7y ago
  You may care about an expensive tool as long as it works, but you'll throw it away as soon as it breaks. A tool has no rights, and you'll never care about it enjoying working for you. Yes, the analogy still work for me.
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- ska 7y ago
  > "Take care of your tools and they will take care of you" In my increasingly out of date experience in that area, this definitely applies to "don't leave your wrenches out in the yard overnight, dummy" but usually not so far as "don't use that as a pry bar". In either case though, if the tool breaks you toss it and move on...

phkahler 7y ago

Yeah, there may have been other long term benefits that were not accounted for in the cost comparison. For example, people like to shop at places with happy employees. The commenter mentioned that the place doesnt exist any more.

redwall_hp 7y ago

Company pays minimum wage. Employees give minimum effort. Company: shockedpikachu.jpg

Ididntdothis 7y ago
Paying more only motivates higher level people. Lower level only respond to the stick. That’s how a lot of people seem to think.
- ranagol 7y ago
  bullshit; Agree on that "lower-level" do not always respond linear to better wage, however that's not the only thing of motivation. What about trainings? Holidays? And not the stick...

megablast 7y ago

> Start treating them reasonably This is stupid though. Is $3 more treating them reasonably? Where is that definition?