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Haven't been in a position to sort resumes yet. If I ever am, NSA in the history is a solid red flag. Be nice or go home. Willingness to participate in all tha

Haven't been in a position to sort resumes yet. If I ever am, NSA in the history is a solid red flag. Be nice or go home. Willingness to participate in all that makes me wonder about your character. Facebook almost as much, depending on when and for how long. The more recent, or longer sustained stay, again. Be nice or go home. Google a little bit more reasonable, especially if only ever on the app/project side vs main service. Adtech experience, I'd have to ask if they'd washed their minds out and won't even consider any of those tactics ever again... on second thought, almost as bad a flag as NSA crap. Even if it's only a small drop of resistance in an ocean of "yeah, ok, whatever", I feel like we should signal that certain behaviors _against_ your fellow humans are poorly regarded. Edit: figured this would get downvotes, ah well.

sdinsn 7y ago
> Willingness to participate in all that Participate in what? The NSA does many different things and has many different positions. Would you hold NSA's janitors responsible as well?
- zentiggr 7y ago
  Strawman. Obvious from context I'm referring to anyone involved in the SIGINT against CONUS and the Internet, and anything related.
  - sdinsn 7y ago
    Not a strawman- you stated "NSA in the history". Believe it or not employees work on all sorts of projects.
- JohnFen 7y ago
  Speaking generally, I view anyone who works for a very problematic company or agency in a worse light for it, regardless of whether they're at the bottom or top of the ladder. Obviously, the higher up the ladder a person, the stronger this effect is. However, that someone is willing to work in any capacity at an organization that behaves badly (in my view) says something about that person.
  - sdinsn 7y ago
    So your answer is, yes, you'd hold NSA's janitors responsible... I hope you never become an employer!
    - JohnFen 7y ago
      That's not what I said, but perhaps you have to define what you mean by "hold them responsible". As I interpret that phrase, no, I wouldn't hold them responsible as such, but that they are willing to work there in any capacity says something about them.

sdinsn 7y ago

> Willingness to participate in all that Participate in what? The NSA does many different things and has many different positions. Would you hold NSA's janitors responsible as well?

zentiggr 7y ago
Strawman. Obvious from context I'm referring to anyone involved in the SIGINT against CONUS and the Internet, and anything related.
- sdinsn 7y ago
  Not a strawman- you stated "NSA in the history". Believe it or not employees work on all sorts of projects.
JohnFen 7y ago
Speaking generally, I view anyone who works for a very problematic company or agency in a worse light for it, regardless of whether they're at the bottom or top of the ladder. Obviously, the higher up the ladder a person, the stronger this effect is. However, that someone is willing to work in any capacity at an organization that behaves badly (in my view) says something about that person.
- sdinsn 7y ago
  So your answer is, yes, you'd hold NSA's janitors responsible... I hope you never become an employer!
  - JohnFen 7y ago
    That's not what I said, but perhaps you have to define what you mean by "hold them responsible". As I interpret that phrase, no, I wouldn't hold them responsible as such, but that they are willing to work there in any capacity says something about them.