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I'm surprised no one has mentioned Delta Chat yet. It solves some of the problems, as it's based on email but adds automatic encryption. See https://delta.chat/
by tobias2014 7y ago
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Delta Chat yet. It solves some of the problems, as it's based on email but adds automatic encryption. See https://delta.chat/ https://delta.chat/ and https://autocrypt.org/ https://autocrypt.org/
For me this is a good compromise and a great alternative to messengers like Whatsapp and Telegram. This is a first step towards decentralization while relying on the existing email infrastructure.
- spindle 7y agoAnd Delta Chat encrypts not only messages but also metadata, right? Although only when used properly - again, there's no point in relying on Delta Chat if your correspondent is going to forward your messages to people on gmail.
- aidenn0 7y agohttps://github.com/deltachat/deltachat-core-rust/issues/1032 https://github.com/deltachat/deltachat-core-rust/issues/1032 implies that the most important metadata (who sent and who received the message) is not encrypted.
- tuuxi 7y agowell, at least the issue says, they can be removed from the easily visible header, so they could also be encrypted. but smtp will know anyway. i think, this is a general issue with "who is messaging whom" - also signal, whatsapp, whatever have to deliver the message and cannot know this afaik when these delivery data are end-to-end-encrypted. so this is not only an email problem. but with email, at least, there is no "global" server that sees everyhing (no, also not gmail outside us :) and can draw a huge social graph.