I think your review isn't that far off. But looking at your other comments you kind of mix requirements all over. For example your beef with WhatsApp is Faceboo

I think your review isn't that far off. But looking at your other comments you kind of mix requirements all over. For example your beef with WhatsApp is Facebook owns the metadata, but when someone says Wire you say it's too hard to self host. But somehow SMS is fine. I think you need to separate them by requirements. But anyway for all purposes Moxy and tptacek keep touting Wire is way better. - It's not tired to a phone number, but can be if you want to. Meaning finding connections is just as easy. - it uses signals encryption - it's message delivery is better than signals - It's UI and UX is a million times better than signals. I let my mom use it years ago already. And you looking pretty actually matters to a lot of people. - The Desktop messaging usecase is properly addressed even for a business setting. Signal feels like a crappy SMS client for desktop on desktop I have no idea why these two people write the things the way they do, but unfortunately its looking less like a let's get people to use the best solutions and more like smear pieces for everything that is not signal. It's really too bad. BTW signal as a messaging client when you frequently switch countries is such a horrible citizen on my phone and judging from peoples issues I'm not the only one who has that problem. - If you have multiple sim cards god knows what you cannot just reply to messages since it will just send from the wrong one. - If you're in an country with a sim that doesn't send the country code with system messages and it differs from your signal number the country will be detected wrong. Replying might cost you. Everytime I upgrade signal I kinda hope it's fixed, but they might as well just put a wontfix label on it.