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> But most of us are facing the problem of MASS SURVEILLANCE All that you're accomplishing by switching to decentralized servers is publishing the metadata tha
by cjbprime 7y ago
> But most of us are facing the problem of MASS SURVEILLANCE
All that you're accomplishing by switching to decentralized servers is publishing the metadata that you claim to be concerned about for free. Before, someone had to serve Google a valid subpoena to find out who you've been talking to. After, you're just broadcasting it publicly across the net in network header logs.
- einpoklum 7y agoYou're misinforming people. Nobody has to hand Google anything. The NSA has direct access to their systems and can take in as much as they want. This is not a conspiracy theory - it is public knowledge thanks to the Edward Snowden leaks.
- joshuamorton 7y agoCan you cite that this is true today?
- einpoklum 7y agoSeriously? :-(
- joshuamorton 7y agoYes, as far as I can tell you're claiming one of three things 1. Google actively assisted the NSA with data collection, beyond legal obligations (subpoenas etc.) 2. The NSA had a way of legally compelling companies to provide direct access to systems and can do arbitrary processing on company internal data 3. The NSA was snooping in Google's systems without Google's knowledge in 2013, and this hasn't been fixed 7 years later. As far as I know, the Snowden leaks don't provide any real evidence for (1) or (2), and so are an extraordinary claim without evidence. (3) also seems rather unlikely. Hence the question.
- cjbprime 7y agoI think OP is talking about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program).
- joshuamorton 7y agoI'm aware. My statement still stands.
- cjbprime 7y agoBut the outline of PRISM described there seems to confirm (1) and (2), no? They didn't need a subpoena for each user, had access to a search term firehose, and the legal method for (2) was the secret FISA court. The access isn't as complete as full arbitrary data, but it's also a long way from only responding to known legal warrants and subpoenas.