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More fun facts: - The Great Pyramid is a scale model of Earth, at a ratio of 1:43,200 (a significant number) - It also encodes its own latitude and longitude

by zarmin 7y ago

More fun facts: - The Great Pyramid is a scale model of Earth, at a ratio of 1:43,200 (a significant number) - It also encodes its own latitude and longitude - Its base perimeter is equal to 1/2 a minute of latitude (1/43,200th of 360 degrees) - It's aligned to true north within 3/60 of one degree (making it, I believe, the most accurately aligned structure on the planet) These are not undisputed claims, but there is absolutely something different about 4th dynasty pyramids that is worth exploring. There are many, many anomalies about Giza that defy explanation. Another example is precision stone cutting and drilling from thousands of years ago. For detailed explanations of the above, check out the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhGQU3m9E34&t=795 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhGQU3m9E34&t=795 (timelinked, but the entire video is excellent) https://youtu.be/H43z2xAis4c?list=PLvuraN2vNappZ6m4jNiK5rDDmZ6AKNrxB https://youtu.be/H43z2xAis4c?list=PLvuraN2vNappZ6m4jNiK5rDDm... and this blog: http://garyosborn.moonfruit.com/1-43200/4594099844 http://garyosborn.moonfruit.com/1-43200/4594099844 This is one of my favorite topics to discuss.

ceejayoz 7y ago
> The Great Pyramid is a scale model of Earth… Is this a joke that’s whooshing over my head?
- zarmin 7y ago
  Nope. Timelinked video: https://youtu.be/rhGQU3m9E34?t=1103 https://youtu.be/rhGQU3m9E34?t=1103
- pavel_lishin 7y ago
  I think this screenshot from the video explains what they're talking about: https://i.imgur.com/F8ISnSq.png https://i.imgur.com/F8ISnSq.png So, what are the odds that this is or isn't a coincidence? Could the ancient Egyptians have measured the two circumferences of the Earth that accurately at that point in history?
  - zarmin 7y ago
    That's the money question. Given the other "anomalies" about the pyramids, along with their relationship to sacred geometry, my opinion is it's impossible these are coincidences.
  - ceejayoz 7y ago
    This looks like numerology. Massage the numbers until they fit. 1/4 of one degree of a coordinate system that hadn’t been invented yet? Why not 1/8? 1/2?
    - zarmin 7y ago
      The coordinate system is a logical division of an oblate spheroid; something which could be derived by knowing the dimensions of the earth.
      - pavel_lishin 7y ago
        But breaking it down into 360 (or really, 1440) parts is non-obvious.
        deleted 7y ago
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    - pavel_lishin 7y ago
      For what it's worth, base-60 were used by Babylonians, which were somewhat contemporary with Egyptians; it's not unreasonable for them to use the same 360-degrees-in-a-circle scheme. But quick glances at Wikipedia don't suggest anything concrete, and in fact it seems like Egyptians used base-10 numbers. So yeah - it does seem to be a stretch that they'd set the bases of their pyramids to be exactly 1/1440th of the Earth's circumference along two different great circles.
      - zarmin 7y ago
        Those same sources will also tell you that Egyptians did not have angular measure. They had the "sekhed", a gradient for measuring slope. How then were they able to derive pi and phi, which the GP is inextricably related to? (https://www.goldennumber.net/phi-pi-great-pyramid-egypt/ https://www.goldennumber.net/phi-pi-great-pyramid-egypt/) I have some theories on this, but they are more speculative and less substantiated than what's been discussed so far.
pavlov 7y ago
” It's aligned to true north within 3/60 of one degree (making it, I believe, the most accurately aligned structure on the planet)” Is that referring to true North today or in 2560 B.C?
- turdnagel 7y ago
  True north doesn’t change - magnetic north does.
  - pavlov 7y ago
    Ah, that’s my confusion. Thanks!
  - dragonwriter 7y ago
    > True north doesn’t change The alignment of a structure fixed to the ground, relative to true north, will change over time, because the while the axis of the earth can be viewed as fixed, the land on the Earth is not fixed with respect to that axis, but moves.
    - nitrogen 7y ago
      The axis isn't strictly fixed; it shifts as the plates etc. shift.
    - bananabreakfast 7y ago
      Not really. The time scale for large movement is much larger than thousands of years. Since the great pyramid was build 4500 years ago the mid atlantic ridge has only moved about 100m. That's just lateral translation, most of which probably did not end up moving egypt much anyway and definitely not enough to throw off the direction a pyramid is pointing by more than a second or two.
- zarmin 7y ago
  True north meaning the fixed point we call the north pole. It doesn't change because it's geographic; nothing to do with the pole star.
_kst_ 7y ago
> It's aligned to true north within 3/60 of one degree (making it, I believe, the most accurately aligned structure on the planet) 3/60 of a degree is mildly impressive (Wikipedia says 4 minutes of arc rather than 3), but I seriously doubt that it's the most accurately aligned structure on the planet. With modern technology, surely we could align something much more closely than that given a good reason to do so.
- zarmin 7y ago
  I definitely agree that we could, given a good reason to. I took a cursory look and couldn't find anything to dispute its precision relative to other structures on Earth.
- fanf2 7y ago
  Transit telescopes are more accurately aligned but a lot smaller https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meridian_circle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meridian_circle
dragonwriter 7y ago
> The Great Pyramid is a scale model of Earth, at a ratio of 1:43,200 (a significant number) No, it's not. It's a rectangular pyramid, and the Earth is a slightly oblate spheroid. If you were given a task to make a scale model of the latter and produced the former, regardless of measurement, you'd be laughed out of the room.
- zarmin 7y ago
  The relationship is between the earth's polar/equatorial circumferences and the pyramid's base perimeter and its height. https://youtu.be/rhGQU3m9E34?t=1103 https://youtu.be/rhGQU3m9E34?t=1103
  - dragonwriter 7y ago
    Having a couple measurements that are the same multiple of a couple measurements of another object, but a radically different shape, doesn't make a thing a scale model.
- candiodari 7y ago
  Clearly, it is: https://greatseal.com/symbols/PyramidEarth.jpg https://greatseal.com/symbols/PyramidEarth.jpg

by zarmin 7y ago

ceejayoz 7y ago

> The Great Pyramid is a scale model of Earth… Is this a joke that’s whooshing over my head?

zarmin 7y ago
Nope. Timelinked video: https://youtu.be/rhGQU3m9E34?t=1103 https://youtu.be/rhGQU3m9E34?t=1103
pavel_lishin 7y ago
I think this screenshot from the video explains what they're talking about: https://i.imgur.com/F8ISnSq.png https://i.imgur.com/F8ISnSq.png So, what are the odds that this is or isn't a coincidence? Could the ancient Egyptians have measured the two circumferences of the Earth that accurately at that point in history?
- zarmin 7y ago
  That's the money question. Given the other "anomalies" about the pyramids, along with their relationship to sacred geometry, my opinion is it's impossible these are coincidences.
- ceejayoz 7y ago
  This looks like numerology. Massage the numbers until they fit. 1/4 of one degree of a coordinate system that hadn’t been invented yet? Why not 1/8? 1/2?
  - zarmin 7y ago
    The coordinate system is a logical division of an oblate spheroid; something which could be derived by knowing the dimensions of the earth.
    - pavel_lishin 7y ago
      But breaking it down into 360 (or really, 1440) parts is non-obvious.
      - deleted 7y ago
        [deleted]
  - pavel_lishin 7y ago
    For what it's worth, base-60 were used by Babylonians, which were somewhat contemporary with Egyptians; it's not unreasonable for them to use the same 360-degrees-in-a-circle scheme. But quick glances at Wikipedia don't suggest anything concrete, and in fact it seems like Egyptians used base-10 numbers. So yeah - it does seem to be a stretch that they'd set the bases of their pyramids to be exactly 1/1440th of the Earth's circumference along two different great circles.
    - zarmin 7y ago
      Those same sources will also tell you that Egyptians did not have angular measure. They had the "sekhed", a gradient for measuring slope. How then were they able to derive pi and phi, which the GP is inextricably related to? (https://www.goldennumber.net/phi-pi-great-pyramid-egypt/ https://www.goldennumber.net/phi-pi-great-pyramid-egypt/) I have some theories on this, but they are more speculative and less substantiated than what's been discussed so far.

pavlov 7y ago

” It's aligned to true north within 3/60 of one degree (making it, I believe, the most accurately aligned structure on the planet)” Is that referring to true North today or in 2560 B.C?

turdnagel 7y ago
True north doesn’t change - magnetic north does.
- pavlov 7y ago
  Ah, that’s my confusion. Thanks!
- dragonwriter 7y ago
  > True north doesn’t change The alignment of a structure fixed to the ground, relative to true north, will change over time, because the while the axis of the earth can be viewed as fixed, the land on the Earth is not fixed with respect to that axis, but moves.
  - nitrogen 7y ago
    The axis isn't strictly fixed; it shifts as the plates etc. shift.
  - bananabreakfast 7y ago
    Not really. The time scale for large movement is much larger than thousands of years. Since the great pyramid was build 4500 years ago the mid atlantic ridge has only moved about 100m. That's just lateral translation, most of which probably did not end up moving egypt much anyway and definitely not enough to throw off the direction a pyramid is pointing by more than a second or two.
zarmin 7y ago
True north meaning the fixed point we call the north pole. It doesn't change because it's geographic; nothing to do with the pole star.

_kst_ 7y ago

> It's aligned to true north within 3/60 of one degree (making it, I believe, the most accurately aligned structure on the planet) 3/60 of a degree is mildly impressive (Wikipedia says 4 minutes of arc rather than 3), but I seriously doubt that it's the most accurately aligned structure on the planet. With modern technology, surely we could align something much more closely than that given a good reason to do so.

zarmin 7y ago
I definitely agree that we could, given a good reason to. I took a cursory look and couldn't find anything to dispute its precision relative to other structures on Earth.
fanf2 7y ago
Transit telescopes are more accurately aligned but a lot smaller https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meridian_circle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meridian_circle

dragonwriter 7y ago

> The Great Pyramid is a scale model of Earth, at a ratio of 1:43,200 (a significant number) No, it's not. It's a rectangular pyramid, and the Earth is a slightly oblate spheroid. If you were given a task to make a scale model of the latter and produced the former, regardless of measurement, you'd be laughed out of the room.

zarmin 7y ago
The relationship is between the earth's polar/equatorial circumferences and the pyramid's base perimeter and its height. https://youtu.be/rhGQU3m9E34?t=1103 https://youtu.be/rhGQU3m9E34?t=1103
- dragonwriter 7y ago
  Having a couple measurements that are the same multiple of a couple measurements of another object, but a radically different shape, doesn't make a thing a scale model.
candiodari 7y ago
Clearly, it is: https://greatseal.com/symbols/PyramidEarth.jpg https://greatseal.com/symbols/PyramidEarth.jpg