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I'm with you there, no doubt, but lately I've wondered how effectively Bernie could accomplish this. Only Nixon could go to China, as the saying goes. EDIT: I

by zelias 7y ago

I'm with you there, no doubt, but lately I've wondered how effectively Bernie could accomplish this. Only Nixon could go to China, as the saying goes. EDIT: I don't mean this in terms of electability -- I think Bernie can beat Trump hands down. What I mean is accomplishing what he sets out to do in terms of policy implementation -- which, as the Obama years have shown us, is not as easy as it sounds.

omegaworks 7y ago
Won in New Hampshire Tied in Iowa, won popular vote Polling strong in Nevada. The momentum is there. EDIT: Regarding policy, with so many Supreme Court Justices up in age, the next President will likely get the chance to set the tone. Citizens United is the ruling that enabled much of the financial influence in the government, and Bernie is committed to dismantling it.
- arrosenberg 7y ago
  > Regarding policy, with so many Supreme Court Justices up in age, the next President will likely get the chance to set the tone. Terrible strategy. Bernie replacing Ruth Bader Ginsberg and Stephen Breyer isn't going to advance the agenda. Clarence Thomas is only 71 and won't step down if a Democrat is president. The only way Bernie passes his agenda is by getting significant portions of the country to strike until Congress complies.
  - omegaworks 7y ago
    With the support of so many unions[1] and willingness to use that support to push his agenda [unlike his predecessor 2], that might actually be a card in his pocket. 1. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/24/bernie-sanders-labor-103136 https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/24/bernie-sanders-labo... 2. https://newrepublic.com/article/140245/obamas-lost-army-inside-fall-grassroots-machine https://newrepublic.com/article/140245/obamas-lost-army-insi...
    - arrosenberg 7y ago
      That's been my assumption for months based on his "organizer-in-chief" comments. I don't see any other practical way for him to get his agenda passed.
gremlinsinc 7y ago
Ask Mike Bloomberg how he thinks Bernie would do against Trump. https://twitter.com/shaunking/status/1225440451152547840 https://twitter.com/shaunking/status/1225440451152547840
rapind 7y ago
I suspect he'll continue to campaign and rally in various states where there is resistance to his goals (one could argue the people's goals), making it very costly to oppose him if you're not on solid footing. Pretty much what Trump did to Republican resistance, but doubtfully as amazingly successful as it's been for Trump. Something of note that Obama did is turn over an enormous movement to the DNC when he assumed office. Not sure anyone knows why except insiders, but it was definitely his biggest mistake, and neutered his clout. (https://newrepublic.com/article/140245/obamas-lost-army-inside-fall-grassroots-machine https://newrepublic.com/article/140245/obamas-lost-army-insi...). No chance Bernie will do that. Bernie's answer to your question would probably be "I can't, but together we can." As cheesy as it sounds, it's true.

by zelias 7y ago

omegaworks 7y ago

Won in New Hampshire Tied in Iowa, won popular vote Polling strong in Nevada. The momentum is there. EDIT: Regarding policy, with so many Supreme Court Justices up in age, the next President will likely get the chance to set the tone. Citizens United is the ruling that enabled much of the financial influence in the government, and Bernie is committed to dismantling it.

arrosenberg 7y ago
> Regarding policy, with so many Supreme Court Justices up in age, the next President will likely get the chance to set the tone. Terrible strategy. Bernie replacing Ruth Bader Ginsberg and Stephen Breyer isn't going to advance the agenda. Clarence Thomas is only 71 and won't step down if a Democrat is president. The only way Bernie passes his agenda is by getting significant portions of the country to strike until Congress complies.
- omegaworks 7y ago
  With the support of so many unions[1] and willingness to use that support to push his agenda [unlike his predecessor 2], that might actually be a card in his pocket. 1. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/24/bernie-sanders-labor-103136 https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/24/bernie-sanders-labo... 2. https://newrepublic.com/article/140245/obamas-lost-army-inside-fall-grassroots-machine https://newrepublic.com/article/140245/obamas-lost-army-insi...
  - arrosenberg 7y ago
    That's been my assumption for months based on his "organizer-in-chief" comments. I don't see any other practical way for him to get his agenda passed.

gremlinsinc 7y ago

Ask Mike Bloomberg how he thinks Bernie would do against Trump. https://twitter.com/shaunking/status/1225440451152547840 https://twitter.com/shaunking/status/1225440451152547840

rapind 7y ago

I suspect he'll continue to campaign and rally in various states where there is resistance to his goals (one could argue the people's goals), making it very costly to oppose him if you're not on solid footing. Pretty much what Trump did to Republican resistance, but doubtfully as amazingly successful as it's been for Trump. Something of note that Obama did is turn over an enormous movement to the DNC when he assumed office. Not sure anyone knows why except insiders, but it was definitely his biggest mistake, and neutered his clout. (https://newrepublic.com/article/140245/obamas-lost-army-inside-fall-grassroots-machine https://newrepublic.com/article/140245/obamas-lost-army-insi...). No chance Bernie will do that. Bernie's answer to your question would probably be "I can't, but together we can." As cheesy as it sounds, it's true.