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I don’t think trump voters were “fooled”, they did in fact own the libs and will likely continue to try and own the libs. For many in america this culture war s

I don’t think trump voters were “fooled”, they did in fact own the libs and will likely continue to try and own the libs. For many in america this culture war shit is the only substantive choice at the polls.

remarkEon 7y ago
It’s true, the libs were owned. And owned hard. It’s all that matters to a lot of them. I wouldn’t be surprised if some are cheering on this Bloomberg phenomenon because of the potential damage it could do to the credibility of the Democratic Party, setting up the libs to get owned yet again in November.
- outoftheabyss 7y ago
  Many would argue a hard left socialist would ruin the credibility of the party more. It’s happened here in the UK
  - non-entity 7y ago
    Good thing no "hard left socialists" are running on the Democratic ticket.
  - monadic2 7y ago
    Hah, the UK media got the candidate they tried to elect. Blame them.
mcv 7y ago
That's a bleak and destructive ideology, if all they care about is hurting people they disagree with. What happened to political movements being for something, instead of just against everything?
- mrguyorama 7y ago
  "Winning" happened.
- homonculus1 7y ago
  That's not all they care about, it's just all they have left. Their values have been systematically eliminated from education, entertainment, and the courts. Their regions are socially and economically ruined. They have some representation in politics and the media but it's mostly just exploitive lip service. Their states are used as shorthand for incest and illiteracy in the punchlines of jokes. I would guess that when there's a riot in an urban neighborhood you don't say they have an ideology which only cares about hurting people and destroying things. You should look at this in a similar way.
  - A4ET8a8uTh0 7y ago
    I think you nailed it. It is so easy to dismiss their complaints and then people are surprised when it turns out that people don't like being dismissed. Who knew?
    - mcv 7y ago
      Who exactly is being dismissed here? And who's doing the mismissing? Because we're talking about Trump voters only caring about "owning the libs". That is dismissing a massive chunk of the population. Yeah, of course liberals don't like that, but you don't see them going on a destructive rampage, they just want to elect better politicians who are going to fix the country. Their complaints are entirely legitimate. Politics isn't a game, it's about running an actual country where people live.
      - A4ET8a8uTh0 7y ago
        Heh. Interesting. The meme of 'owning the libs' is clearly a strong one and happily repeated by left leaning talk show/radio hosts. Are you talking with 'representatives' of the population? I try. The sense I am getting is the frustration of not being heard, being ignored.. or having their voices simplified into a sound bite along the lines of 'owning the libs'. It can get annoying. Trump is a symptom of that. A big giant scream that says simply 'can you hear me now?'. I even disagree with you about it not being a game. It is. It has real life stakes and consequences, and scary ones at that, but it is a game. As for liberals just trying to fix the country, while saying equivalent of 'we r gonna nix insurance companies, coal factories and big coke' may simply not be perceived as such. It needs to be addressed and not shoved down people's throats. You have to be willingly blind to your own side propaganda to not see this big emergent picture.

remarkEon 7y ago

It’s true, the libs were owned. And owned hard. It’s all that matters to a lot of them. I wouldn’t be surprised if some are cheering on this Bloomberg phenomenon because of the potential damage it could do to the credibility of the Democratic Party, setting up the libs to get owned yet again in November.

outoftheabyss 7y ago
Many would argue a hard left socialist would ruin the credibility of the party more. It’s happened here in the UK
- non-entity 7y ago
  Good thing no "hard left socialists" are running on the Democratic ticket.
- monadic2 7y ago
  Hah, the UK media got the candidate they tried to elect. Blame them.

mcv 7y ago

That's a bleak and destructive ideology, if all they care about is hurting people they disagree with. What happened to political movements being for something, instead of just against everything?

mrguyorama 7y ago
"Winning" happened.
homonculus1 7y ago
That's not all they care about, it's just all they have left. Their values have been systematically eliminated from education, entertainment, and the courts. Their regions are socially and economically ruined. They have some representation in politics and the media but it's mostly just exploitive lip service. Their states are used as shorthand for incest and illiteracy in the punchlines of jokes. I would guess that when there's a riot in an urban neighborhood you don't say they have an ideology which only cares about hurting people and destroying things. You should look at this in a similar way.
- A4ET8a8uTh0 7y ago
  I think you nailed it. It is so easy to dismiss their complaints and then people are surprised when it turns out that people don't like being dismissed. Who knew?
  - mcv 7y ago
    Who exactly is being dismissed here? And who's doing the mismissing? Because we're talking about Trump voters only caring about "owning the libs". That is dismissing a massive chunk of the population. Yeah, of course liberals don't like that, but you don't see them going on a destructive rampage, they just want to elect better politicians who are going to fix the country. Their complaints are entirely legitimate. Politics isn't a game, it's about running an actual country where people live.
    - A4ET8a8uTh0 7y ago
      Heh. Interesting. The meme of 'owning the libs' is clearly a strong one and happily repeated by left leaning talk show/radio hosts. Are you talking with 'representatives' of the population? I try. The sense I am getting is the frustration of not being heard, being ignored.. or having their voices simplified into a sound bite along the lines of 'owning the libs'. It can get annoying. Trump is a symptom of that. A big giant scream that says simply 'can you hear me now?'. I even disagree with you about it not being a game. It is. It has real life stakes and consequences, and scary ones at that, but it is a game. As for liberals just trying to fix the country, while saying equivalent of 'we r gonna nix insurance companies, coal factories and big coke' may simply not be perceived as such. It needs to be addressed and not shoved down people's throats. You have to be willingly blind to your own side propaganda to not see this big emergent picture.