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It’s Bill Gates ... let the man have his Porsche. Regardless, the Taycan is a hell of a machine and is going to have better fit and finish than a Tesla. It’s a

It’s Bill Gates ... let the man have his Porsche. Regardless, the Taycan is a hell of a machine and is going to have better fit and finish than a Tesla. It’s also the hot new thing, whereas the Model 3 is old news. Assuming you can afford both, I can’t think of anyone who’d take the Tesla over the Taycan.

andrewtbham 7y ago
Tesla has world class fit and finish... even Bob Lutz agrees. "But, when next to the car, I was stunned. Not only was the paint without any discernible flaw, but the various panels formed a body of precision that was beyond reproach. Gaps from hood to fenders, doors to frame, and all the others appeared to be perfectly even, equal side-to-side, and completely parallel. Gaps of 3.5 to 4.5mm are considered word-class. This Model 3 measured up." https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/a28008116/tesla-model-3-build-quality-bob-lutz/ https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/a28008116/tesla-model-...
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- ryanlol 7y ago
  > Tesla has world class fit and finish. Anyone who genuinely believes this is lying to themselves. How come you’ve copypasted this same comment 3 times in a row? And anyway, the quoted bit is about panel gaps, that’s only a relatively minor part of fit and finish. Try sitting in a tesla and an actually nice car.
  - yourcssisbroke 7y ago
    oh yea, the musk fanboys are seriously next level delusional. once you buy one of those hunkers, you're defending your bad purchase and musk for the rest of your days ;)
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dlivingston 7y ago
If you're in the market for the Taycan, you'd probably be in the market for the 2020 Roadster [0]. While it's still in pre-production, these two cars seem to me to be the real competitors (both electric sports cars, with very fast 0-60 and 1/4 mile times, etc.) over something like the Taycan vs. Model S. [0]: https://www.tesla.com/roadster https://www.tesla.com/roadster
- anthm1988 7y ago
  One is a real car you can buy, the other isn't. That's ignoring Tesla's historical issues with fit and finish/quality control.
  - roflchoppa2 7y ago
    cant wait for more competition in the EV space.
- theluketaylor 7y ago
  Porsche has said most of their Taycan customers are existing Porsche customers, so it's more likely someone already has a 911 or Cayman and wants to try an EV. Taycan Turbo S is certainly priced in Roadster territory, but the 4S trim that just started delivery is right in line with Model S. There will be many people cross shopping Taycan 4S against Model S.
valine 7y ago
I’m sure lots of people would take a Model S over the Porsche in many scenarios considering the Model S has an epa estimated range of 390 miles whereas the Taycan has comparatively short 192 mile range. It doesn’t matter how nice the finish is if the car can’t get you to where you want to go.
- ancientworldnow 7y ago
  Except in real world testing the Taycan dramatically exceeds it's EPA testing while the model S falls far short. In fact the two end up only a few tens of miles different and the Taycan charges faster to make up for it. There are numerous articles and YouTube videos exploring this if you want further information.
  - valine 7y ago
    Under ideal conditions the Taycan can charge to 80% in 22.5 minutes. That’s 160 miles, or 426 miles per hour. Third generation super chargers can charge at a rate of 1000 miles per hour, so your statement that the Taycan charges faster is false. As far as range testing goes I’ve never heard of a Tesla not being able to meet its epa estimated range, and I find it hard to believe that Porsche would be advertising a low range if they’re capable of achieving something better.
    - theluketaylor 7y ago
      Your math assumes the EPA range for taycan which has been demonstrated by a number of sources to not be a very accurate representation of Taycan real range. While the EPA range for many EVs has proven pretty accurate, for Taycan the methodology just doesn't fit. Taycan will peak charge at 270 kW. Tesla Model 3 on a V3 supercharger peak at 250 kW. They are pretty close.
    - ryanlol 7y ago
      > I find it hard to believe that Porsche would be advertising a low range if they’re capable of achieving something better. Heh, Porsche has been doing this with their combustion cars for ages.
yourcssisbroke 7y ago
anyone who knows cars knows he made the right choice. you'll just have the rabid tesla fanboys saying the tesla is better because they are delusional.

andrewtbham 7y ago

Tesla has world class fit and finish... even Bob Lutz agrees. "But, when next to the car, I was stunned. Not only was the paint without any discernible flaw, but the various panels formed a body of precision that was beyond reproach. Gaps from hood to fenders, doors to frame, and all the others appeared to be perfectly even, equal side-to-side, and completely parallel. Gaps of 3.5 to 4.5mm are considered word-class. This Model 3 measured up." https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/a28008116/tesla-model-3-build-quality-bob-lutz/ https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/a28008116/tesla-model-...

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ryanlol 7y ago
> Tesla has world class fit and finish. Anyone who genuinely believes this is lying to themselves. How come you’ve copypasted this same comment 3 times in a row? And anyway, the quoted bit is about panel gaps, that’s only a relatively minor part of fit and finish. Try sitting in a tesla and an actually nice car.
- yourcssisbroke 7y ago
  oh yea, the musk fanboys are seriously next level delusional. once you buy one of those hunkers, you're defending your bad purchase and musk for the rest of your days ;)
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dlivingston 7y ago

If you're in the market for the Taycan, you'd probably be in the market for the 2020 Roadster [0]. While it's still in pre-production, these two cars seem to me to be the real competitors (both electric sports cars, with very fast 0-60 and 1/4 mile times, etc.) over something like the Taycan vs. Model S. [0]: https://www.tesla.com/roadster https://www.tesla.com/roadster

anthm1988 7y ago
One is a real car you can buy, the other isn't. That's ignoring Tesla's historical issues with fit and finish/quality control.
- roflchoppa2 7y ago
  cant wait for more competition in the EV space.
theluketaylor 7y ago
Porsche has said most of their Taycan customers are existing Porsche customers, so it's more likely someone already has a 911 or Cayman and wants to try an EV. Taycan Turbo S is certainly priced in Roadster territory, but the 4S trim that just started delivery is right in line with Model S. There will be many people cross shopping Taycan 4S against Model S.

valine 7y ago

I’m sure lots of people would take a Model S over the Porsche in many scenarios considering the Model S has an epa estimated range of 390 miles whereas the Taycan has comparatively short 192 mile range. It doesn’t matter how nice the finish is if the car can’t get you to where you want to go.

ancientworldnow 7y ago
Except in real world testing the Taycan dramatically exceeds it's EPA testing while the model S falls far short. In fact the two end up only a few tens of miles different and the Taycan charges faster to make up for it. There are numerous articles and YouTube videos exploring this if you want further information.
- valine 7y ago
  Under ideal conditions the Taycan can charge to 80% in 22.5 minutes. That’s 160 miles, or 426 miles per hour. Third generation super chargers can charge at a rate of 1000 miles per hour, so your statement that the Taycan charges faster is false. As far as range testing goes I’ve never heard of a Tesla not being able to meet its epa estimated range, and I find it hard to believe that Porsche would be advertising a low range if they’re capable of achieving something better.
  - theluketaylor 7y ago
    Your math assumes the EPA range for taycan which has been demonstrated by a number of sources to not be a very accurate representation of Taycan real range. While the EPA range for many EVs has proven pretty accurate, for Taycan the methodology just doesn't fit. Taycan will peak charge at 270 kW. Tesla Model 3 on a V3 supercharger peak at 250 kW. They are pretty close.
  - ryanlol 7y ago
    > I find it hard to believe that Porsche would be advertising a low range if they’re capable of achieving something better. Heh, Porsche has been doing this with their combustion cars for ages.

yourcssisbroke 7y ago

anyone who knows cars knows he made the right choice. you'll just have the rabid tesla fanboys saying the tesla is better because they are delusional.