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I don't agree with your opinion, but I vouched for you (after you were flagged) because you didn't violate any of the rules and I believe that your opinion is w

I don't agree with your opinion, but I vouched for you (after you were flagged) because you didn't violate any of the rules and I believe that your opinion is worth discussing. Feminism can go extreme at times and your opinion has a level of validity. Additionally I would like to probe how a person like you would arrive at that conclusion. Another thing that gets me is that you didn't do anything wrong. You aren't slandering women, you're just saying that there's sexism towards white men. I am not white and I say this is not worth flagging.

Tomte 7y ago
> Another thing that gets me is that you didn't do anything wrong. You aren't slandering women, you're just saying that there's sexism towards white men. I am not white and I say this is not worth flagging. Sure he did something wrong. This discussion thread is not about sexism towards men. It's about Susan Fowler's experience. And the "white knight" screed alone is enough to flag it. Find another submission to whine about feminists.
- ryguytilidie 7y ago
  Or just don't whine about feminists when people are talking about serious women's issues?
  - non-entity 7y ago
    It was my understanding that "whining about feminists" falls into content was discouraged on this site in general
brosinante 7y ago
I mean, it completely dismisses other people's experiences on the first line, alleges that some kind white knights are running rampart on HN, cherrypicks "points", links to random reddit comments to attempt to prove a position. But sure, what a comment! How dare people thing it's crap.
- carapace 7y ago
  If you had just omitted your last sentence that would have been so much better. (It's a general heuristic on HN: Omit your last sentence. Most of our comments would be improved, as we are not as good at rhetoric as our passions would guide us to imagine.)
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cultus 7y ago
Perhaps you'd be happier at 4chan.
dang 7y ago
It's not true that that comment didn't violate any of HN's rules. It violated several rules, such as the ones against flamebait and ideological battle. Would you please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html?
- crimsonalucard 7y ago
  Ok you're right. But the topic itself: of men also suffering from sexism, to me, does not violate the rules; if he presented that topic in a different way would it still violate the rules according to canon/you?
  - MockObject 7y ago
    Judging from the lack of responses except downvotes, the answer must be "no". This must be all that pervasive tech industry patriarchal misogyny I keep hearing about.
    - crimsonalucard 7y ago
      Seems like a yes to me. Disagreement usually comes in the form of a logical justification for why there is a disagreement. Lack of response indicates to me that someone disagrees but can't construct a logical argument to justify a disagreement.
      - MockObject 7y ago
        Sorry, I meant "no", it is not welcome. > Lack of response indicates to me that someone disagrees but can't construct a logical argument to justify a disagreement. You are correct.

Tomte 7y ago

> Another thing that gets me is that you didn't do anything wrong. You aren't slandering women, you're just saying that there's sexism towards white men. I am not white and I say this is not worth flagging. Sure he did something wrong. This discussion thread is not about sexism towards men. It's about Susan Fowler's experience. And the "white knight" screed alone is enough to flag it. Find another submission to whine about feminists.

ryguytilidie 7y ago
Or just don't whine about feminists when people are talking about serious women's issues?
- non-entity 7y ago
  It was my understanding that "whining about feminists" falls into content was discouraged on this site in general

brosinante 7y ago

I mean, it completely dismisses other people's experiences on the first line, alleges that some kind white knights are running rampart on HN, cherrypicks "points", links to random reddit comments to attempt to prove a position. But sure, what a comment! How dare people thing it's crap.

carapace 7y ago
If you had just omitted your last sentence that would have been so much better. (It's a general heuristic on HN: Omit your last sentence. Most of our comments would be improved, as we are not as good at rhetoric as our passions would guide us to imagine.)

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cultus 7y ago

Perhaps you'd be happier at 4chan.

dang 7y ago

It's not true that that comment didn't violate any of HN's rules. It violated several rules, such as the ones against flamebait and ideological battle. Would you please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html?

crimsonalucard 7y ago
Ok you're right. But the topic itself: of men also suffering from sexism, to me, does not violate the rules; if he presented that topic in a different way would it still violate the rules according to canon/you?
- MockObject 7y ago
  Judging from the lack of responses except downvotes, the answer must be "no". This must be all that pervasive tech industry patriarchal misogyny I keep hearing about.
  - crimsonalucard 7y ago
    Seems like a yes to me. Disagreement usually comes in the form of a logical justification for why there is a disagreement. Lack of response indicates to me that someone disagrees but can't construct a logical argument to justify a disagreement.
    - MockObject 7y ago
      Sorry, I meant "no", it is not welcome. > Lack of response indicates to me that someone disagrees but can't construct a logical argument to justify a disagreement. You are correct.