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As the article states, it's in the same colour as the centre-right (by US standards) political party and to many of us here it feels like they're "trolling the

As the article states, it's in the same colour as the centre-right (by US standards) political party and to many of us here it feels like they're "trolling the libs" with these plates. One of the early plans of this government was to remove parts of The Greenbelt[0] and turn it into more suburban sprawl. Thankfully this was canceled after outrage from people here. So "A Place to Grow" seems extra rich in light of that. It's an economic message, not an environmental one. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenbelt_(Golden_Horseshoe) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenbelt_(Golden_Horseshoe)

bryanlarsen 7y ago
Most greenbelts are almost completely environmental failures. Designed to concentrate development on the inner core, they simply encourage the spread of the massive bedroom communities that develop outside of the greenbelt. They're also generally too small to support a viable large animal population which are a critical part of any ecosystem. But AFAICT, the golden horseshoe greenbelt has neither of these problems: it's very large, and on the far side of most GTA bedroom communities.
- 52-6F-62 7y ago
  To wit, the Ontario greenbelt contains some essential watersheds. https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/greenbelt/pages/383/attachments/original/1381944119/dsf_watersheds_ontario_greenbelt_web.pdf https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/greenbelt/pages/383/at... The last time the province's water needs weren't properly cared-for resulted in what's known as the Walkerton Tragedy. https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/walkerton-tragedy https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/walkerton-... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walkerton_E._coli_outbreak https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walkerton_E._coli_outbreak
  - bryanlarsen 7y ago
    Completely unrelated. Cattle farming is allowed within the greenbelt, and feedlots were the source of Walkerton's E. coli.
    - 52-6F-62 7y ago
      They are related in that a government decided to politicize something like water testing (or in this case, environmental protection). The watersheds are essential for filtering water that hits Ontarian cities. Walkerton was the result of negligence and disregard for the environment and people's safety. We could easily run into a similar situation if faced with similar wanton disregard for the functions of the watersheds by deregulating the greenbelt and selling the land off to private suburban development companies whose sole priority is extracting as much profit as possible from initial sales. (Opening that land up to private developers was Ford's stated intention and he only backed down after he drew a lot of public outrage at the notion).
Dumblydorr 7y ago
Political party seems more important for identity than anything else these days...

bryanlarsen 7y ago

Most greenbelts are almost completely environmental failures. Designed to concentrate development on the inner core, they simply encourage the spread of the massive bedroom communities that develop outside of the greenbelt. They're also generally too small to support a viable large animal population which are a critical part of any ecosystem. But AFAICT, the golden horseshoe greenbelt has neither of these problems: it's very large, and on the far side of most GTA bedroom communities.

52-6F-62 7y ago
To wit, the Ontario greenbelt contains some essential watersheds. https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/greenbelt/pages/383/attachments/original/1381944119/dsf_watersheds_ontario_greenbelt_web.pdf https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/greenbelt/pages/383/at... The last time the province's water needs weren't properly cared-for resulted in what's known as the Walkerton Tragedy. https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/walkerton-tragedy https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/walkerton-... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walkerton_E._coli_outbreak https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walkerton_E._coli_outbreak
- bryanlarsen 7y ago
  Completely unrelated. Cattle farming is allowed within the greenbelt, and feedlots were the source of Walkerton's E. coli.
  - 52-6F-62 7y ago
    They are related in that a government decided to politicize something like water testing (or in this case, environmental protection). The watersheds are essential for filtering water that hits Ontarian cities. Walkerton was the result of negligence and disregard for the environment and people's safety. We could easily run into a similar situation if faced with similar wanton disregard for the functions of the watersheds by deregulating the greenbelt and selling the land off to private suburban development companies whose sole priority is extracting as much profit as possible from initial sales. (Opening that land up to private developers was Ford's stated intention and he only backed down after he drew a lot of public outrage at the notion).

Dumblydorr 7y ago

Political party seems more important for identity than anything else these days...