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Tesla's Elon Musk Swipes at Porsche-Buying Bill Gates
- roflchoppa2 7y agothe tesla hype machine must continue...... Bill's been a Porsche guy, does he still have the 959?
- tibbydudeza 7y agoAfaik he still has it , making sure to keep the annual millage under 2500 for that special import law he and some motoring aficionado's got passed.
- bochoh 7y agoThis special import law is called "Show or Diplay" and is a statuary amendment to the Unite States Federal Motor Vehicle Saftey Standards (FMVSS). "Because of the expense and effort required to import a vehicle with this exemption, the approved vehicle list is mainly limited to high-value sports and touring cars." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Show_or_Display https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Show_or_Display
- roflchoppa2 7y ago2500 is a good amount, can still take it on rally tours.
- Ajedi32 7y agoA whole article written about this one single Tweet? https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1229568241552502784 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1229568241552502784 > @elonmusk My conversations with Gates have been underwhelming tbh
- JohnClark1337 7y agoMust be a slow news day
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- lunias 7y agoJournalism dawg. 1. Copy something divisive that was posted publicly 2. Add unnecessary setting i.e. state the obvious: "posted on Twitter last night" when there is a timestamp on the tweet. Did you know that Bill Gates is a Microsoft founder? Elon likes to tweet Etc. 3. ??? aka run ads 4. Profit My experience with this "article" has been underwhelming tbh.
- thinkingemote 7y agoWe really need to call out this cheap journalism more often. Once upon a time such "news" only appeared in a small section of newspapers under the gossip column
- drummer 7y agoNot only is Elon brilliant but he also has a great sense of humor.
- yourcssisbroke 7y agohe is an attention seeking cry baby, and nothing more.
- defterGoose 7y agoIf you're a misanthropic edgelord, yeah, he's the top of the heap.
- Tiktaalik 7y agoTop Gear recently reviewed the Taycan. It roasted the Tesla so there's one reason to pick that over the other.
- s_y_n_t_a_x 7y agoHalf the range and twice the price though... and I don't think the results indicate a "roasting". Taycan Turbo S: 0-60: 2.61 0-100: 6.12 ¼ mile: 10.69s @ 131.6mph Tesla Model S Performance: 0-60: 2.83 0-100: 6.64 ¼ mile: 11.23s @ 123.2mph With those stats I'll take the cheaper, longer range option.
- elteto 7y agoI don't know how the Taycan compares to a Tesla, but Top Gear has had an anti-Tesla bias for a very long time, going back to when they did a negative review of the Roadster that was entirely fake and staged. So take its reviews with (un)healthy doses of salt.
- mhh__ 7y agoThis is a totally totally different generation of top gear. The serious car reviews are now mainly done by Chris Harris who is a very respected automotive journalist.
- myrandomcomment 7y agoI have driven all the Tesla models. They are really quite cool, however I cannot reconcile fit and finish vs price point. I reached a point in my life where I could buy MB, Porsche, etc. and I did. It sets the bar higher on what you like. The Tesla’s are not there. Most of price on the Tesla is because of the batteries, I understand that. This is why the Porsche properly equipped is ~180K. I will never buy another gas car so I am hoping the prices point on an electric from the luxury manufacture comes down rapidly. For me, I cannot rationalize paying 180K for the Porsche. That number is just over some line in my head, even if I can just write a check for it.
- andrewtbham 7y agoTesla has world class fit and finish... even Bob Lutz agrees. "But, when next to the car, I was stunned. Not only was the paint without any discernible flaw, but the various panels formed a body of precision that was beyond reproach. Gaps from hood to fenders, doors to frame, and all the others appeared to be perfectly even, equal side-to-side, and completely parallel. Gaps of 3.5 to 4.5mm are considered word-class. This Model 3 measured up." https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/a28008116/tesla-model-3-build-quality-bob-lutz/ https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/a28008116/tesla-model-...
- theluketaylor 7y agoYou can equip a Taycan 4S quite nicely for $130K US, but what you probably want is the electric Macan next year. Taycan is priced (and roughly sized) around Panamara, which sells for 90K to well north of 200K. Macan starts much lower at 50K. The BEV version will likely start higher than that, I'm betting even well equipped ones will be under 100K.
- myrandomcomment 7y agoThanks for sharing that! My wife has a Macan with 80K+ miles on it that we have started to think about a replacement for. I did not know this was in the works.
- whalesalad 7y agoIt’s Bill Gates ... let the man have his Porsche. Regardless, the Taycan is a hell of a machine and is going to have better fit and finish than a Tesla. It’s also the hot new thing, whereas the Model 3 is old news. Assuming you can afford both, I can’t think of anyone who’d take the Tesla over the Taycan.
- andrewtbham 7y agoTesla has world class fit and finish... even Bob Lutz agrees. "But, when next to the car, I was stunned. Not only was the paint without any discernible flaw, but the various panels formed a body of precision that was beyond reproach. Gaps from hood to fenders, doors to frame, and all the others appeared to be perfectly even, equal side-to-side, and completely parallel. Gaps of 3.5 to 4.5mm are considered word-class. This Model 3 measured up." https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/a28008116/tesla-model-3-build-quality-bob-lutz/ https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/a28008116/tesla-model-...
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- ryanlol 7y ago> Tesla has world class fit and finish. Anyone who genuinely believes this is lying to themselves. How come you’ve copypasted this same comment 3 times in a row? And anyway, the quoted bit is about panel gaps, that’s only a relatively minor part of fit and finish. Try sitting in a tesla and an actually nice car.
- yourcssisbroke 7y agooh yea, the musk fanboys are seriously next level delusional. once you buy one of those hunkers, you're defending your bad purchase and musk for the rest of your days ;)
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- lm28469 7y agoHasn't Gates been driving Porsche forever ? Plus when you have Gates' level of money you probably don't give a fuck about autopilot (which is tesla's only advantage) since you can hire as many drivers in rolls royce as you want.
- sschueller 7y agoYes, he also had a Porsche he purchased stuck in customs and got a law passed to allow him to import it. He is a huge Porsche fan.
- melling 7y agoBill has owned a lot of Porches. It was his first big purchase: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/20/the-first-big-purchase-bill-gates-made-when-microsoft-started-taking-off.html https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/20/the-first-big-purchase-bill-... https://www.motor1.com/news/76136/driving-a-porsche-959-in-the-us-thank-bill-gates/ https://www.motor1.com/news/76136/driving-a-porsche-959-in-t... I forget if that’s what he was driving when he was arrested: https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bill_Gates_mugshot.png https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bill_Gates_mugshot...
- MrFoof 7y agoGates was arrested in his 911, back when Microsoft was still out of New Mexico. As for Gates buying a Taycan, I'm pretty sure he's the most important customer of Porsche of Bellevue. Not just because he's Bill Gates, but that he's still regularly buying 911s.
- Traster 7y agoOnce again, Elon Musk proving that no matter how smart you are, you can still choose to be a total asshole.