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It is not hypocritical at all if the OP intends to fully mix and integrate. Germany has a large Turkish demographic that the governing class is intent on expan
by biscotti 7y ago
It is not hypocritical at all if the OP intends to fully mix and integrate.
Germany has a large Turkish demographic that the governing class is intent on expanding on that does not mix nor integrate, even after 2 or 3 generations. This culture encourages their women to procreate at a young age, denies them their own agency and forces them to subside on benefits.
The same is true in the UK with Pakistanis / Bangladeshis, with more than half receiving state support [1]. I'm not sure if Germany has towns like Bradford [2] or Luton but I'd wager this was the deciding factor why the Brits voted out, given that the majority of refugees during the crisis were from Islamic countries. Current trends will see Britons in the minority by 2066 [3].
I was in Berlin not too long ago, and as myself and a few coworkers returned from lunch near Spandau, a middle aged woman in full dress stopped in the middle of the road and dramatically traced a line along her neck whilst staring directly at the four of us. Not the behavior I would expect from someone grateful to find themselves in the country of another.
I have no idea why Western countries have persued this policy, or allowed the funding of mosques by foreign actors. I know in the UK there was a scandal that suggested that the Labour party might have done so to increase their voting base [4], but with the spousal rights that immigration brings it's been extremely difficult to get a handle on ever since. In the case of Germany, since infinite growth is impossible, will the loss of societal cohesion in persuit of GDP alone prove worth it?
Peter Thiel predicts the future of Europe is to either islamicize or become surveillance states [5]. For an example of how this might play out over the long term, Lebanon used to be a Christian majority country until it accepted a large influx of muslim refugees. The place has been a smoking ruin ever since, with Islamic culture imposed and Christians fleeing a nation created specifically for them by the French. Sadly the west in it's infinite wisdom decided to subsequently destroy the one country that might have provided a natural refuge for these people [6].
[1] https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/work-pay-and-benefits/benefits/state-support/latest https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/work-pay-...
[2] https://datashine.org.uk/#table=QS201EW&col=QS201EW0011&ramp=YlOrRd&layers=BTTT&zoom=12.739999999999998&lon=-1.7451&lat=53.7942 https://datashine.org.uk/#table=QS201EW&col=QS201EW0011&ramp...
[3] https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/8142176/White-Britons-to-become-minority-by-2066.html https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/8142176/...
[4] https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/641845...
[5] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRleB034EC8&t=38m51s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRleB034EC8&t=38m51s
[6] https://www.wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/1976BEIRUT02937_b.html https://www.wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/1976BEIRUT02937_b.htm...
- Tomis02 7y agoAh, if Peter Thiel predicted it then it must be so. You know, nobody's poor enough to not afford to make predictions. It's touching how Americans are so concerned for the EU, especially considering they understand so little of it.
- biscotti 7y agoThe UK governments own review on the matter seems to lend him a little creedence on the matter [1]. If you're European yourself, does your experience spending time in and around these communities suggest otherwise? Mine, in schools in the UK, and seeing with my own eyes the segregation evident in Belgium and Germany seems to suggest this inconvenient truth has the potential to tear Europe apart should trends continue [2] and politicians remain too afraid to at least discuss it openly. The EU's own commisar Frans Timmermans thoughts on this should tell you all you need to know about this malign institution [3]. How he can state what he does without facing up to the reality is in equal parts ignorant, reckless and tragic. As europeans turn away from religion, we should have made sure we eradicated it entirely before we experimented on our populations in the way that we have. Future generations will not thank us for what is coming. [1] https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-casey-review-a-review-into-opportunity-and-integration https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-casey-review-... [2] https://iussp2009.princeton.edu/papers/93139 https://iussp2009.princeton.edu/papers/93139 [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q94syUDDhxA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q94syUDDhxA