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It’s illegal discrimination to provide programs only for the majority sex — see rulings on only having sports programs for men. (Women have been the majority of

It’s illegal discrimination to provide programs only for the majority sex — see rulings on only having sports programs for men. (Women have been the majority of college students since the 1980s.) There’s nothing wrong with women in STEM programs, but not having matching men-in-social-sciences programs is a Title IX violation... precisely in the way only having sports for men would be. You can have programs for no one; you can have programs for everyone; you cant have programs only for one sex. That’s literally the point of civil rights laws.

charlesu 7y ago
That's an oversimplification of Title IX. Nowhere does it state that a university must offer the same sports programs or even the same number of sports programs for each gender. It only states that women who desire to play sports be accommodated, which is to say, a school can't only have sports programs for men. From the US Department of Education website: A college or university is not required to offer particular sports or the same sports for each sex. Also, an institution is not required to offer an equal number of sports for each sex. However, an institution must accommodate to the same degree the athletic interests and abilities of each sex in the selection of sports [1] [1] https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/docs/interath.html https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/docs/interath.htm...
- miscPerson 7y ago
  > which is to say, a school can't only have sports programs for men > However, an institution must accommodate to the same degree the athletic interests and abilities of each sex in the selection of sports Both you and the quoted text agree with my position: I didn’t say it had to be support in the same majors, or an equal number of majors; I said that programs for supporting men in majors where they trail must exist if such programs exist for women (such as women in STEM). The current state of affairs is that some programs for women exist while none do for men; nothing you’ve said disputes that’s a violation of Title IX. I appreciate the quote, though: ”must accommodate to the same degree ... interests and abilities of each sex” That seems like a direct callout that supporting one sex academically while not supporting the other might be problematic.

charlesu 7y ago

That's an oversimplification of Title IX. Nowhere does it state that a university must offer the same sports programs or even the same number of sports programs for each gender. It only states that women who desire to play sports be accommodated, which is to say, a school can't only have sports programs for men. From the US Department of Education website: A college or university is not required to offer particular sports or the same sports for each sex. Also, an institution is not required to offer an equal number of sports for each sex. However, an institution must accommodate to the same degree the athletic interests and abilities of each sex in the selection of sports [1] [1] https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/docs/interath.html https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/docs/interath.htm...

miscPerson 7y ago
> which is to say, a school can't only have sports programs for men > However, an institution must accommodate to the same degree the athletic interests and abilities of each sex in the selection of sports Both you and the quoted text agree with my position: I didn’t say it had to be support in the same majors, or an equal number of majors; I said that programs for supporting men in majors where they trail must exist if such programs exist for women (such as women in STEM). The current state of affairs is that some programs for women exist while none do for men; nothing you’ve said disputes that’s a violation of Title IX. I appreciate the quote, though: ”must accommodate to the same degree ... interests and abilities of each sex” That seems like a direct callout that supporting one sex academically while not supporting the other might be problematic.