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Canada and especially Québec should do this too. Québec has a lottery system for visas. First come first serve. Rest of Canada has a points based system but is

by thbr99 7y ago

Canada and especially Québec should do this too. Québec has a lottery system for visas. First come first serve. Rest of Canada has a points based system but is being played by low skilled workers.

AndrewUnmuted 7y ago
It's funny, since the 'first come first serve' idea has been struck down in the US as being inhumane, and has been seen this way for decades by most of the people that work inside the American political system.
Rafert 7y ago
https://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/immigrate-settle/permanent-workers/requirements-programs/index.html https://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/immigrate-settl... mentions points?
- thbr99 7y ago
  That points system is not followed at all. Québec immigration department is one such department in Québec which needs a thorough investigation on their practices and selection criteria. Low skilled workers from France is given undue priority in the name of language without any other employable merits.
Sytten 7y ago
I agree, I know some french people who can't get a visa in a reasonable amount of time (I would not wait for more than 3-4 months myself) despite being in a sector with shortages of workers. It makes no sense to me, especially from a government that pretends to be aligned with the needs of businesses.
- mattkrause 7y ago
  The “global talent” thing is weird, in that the main website talks a big game, but the fine print reveals that it only covers a few very specific jobs. Neither my wife nor I qualified (PhD researchers in ‘hot’ fields) but video game artists apparently do.
- thbr99 7y ago
  Quebec's immigration system denies French citizen because her thesis had English in it. This is what happens in Québec immigration department. Red tape and mismanagement. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/french-thesis-immigration-caq-1.5351155 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/french-thesis-immigr...
thescriptkiddie 7y ago
Why is everybody on here suddenly a fascist? It's like all of the hackers have been replaced with temporarily embarrassed unicorn founders.
- dang 7y ago
  Can you please stop using HN for ideological battle? You've done it repeatedly lately, and we ban such accounts. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and using the site in the intended spirit, we'd appreciate it.
smnrchrds 7y ago
> Québec has a lottery system for visas. Are you talking about the previous immigration framework or the new one CAQ has implemented.
- thbr99 7y ago
  The truth is it's not implemented yet though they say it is. Anyone that I know of are still waiting on the Québec immigration department to process their files for the past one year in the regular skilled worker category.
flukus 7y ago
> Rest of Canada has a points based system but is being played by low skilled workers. Same in Australia, so many "skilled" workers that are driving taxis, driving uber eats, working in 711, doing tier 1 tech support, etc. It's a good idea in theory but the implementation is horrible, especially when there is high youth un/under employment. It get's even worse when you combine it with the "education" paper mill industry.
cmdshiftf4 7y ago
>Rest of Canada has a points based system but is being played by low skilled workers. It's not being played by low skilled workers. It's being played by wage suppressing mega-cops such as Tim Hortons and McDonalds and low skilled migrants from places like India are unsurprisingly jumping at the opportunity to get out.
- thbr99 7y ago
  There was a Wendys recruitment drive in India some years back. The reason behind that was they could not find restaurant workers in Wendys Alberta. I find it very hard to believe they could not find local Canadian workers.

by thbr99 7y ago

Canada and especially Québec should do this too. Québec has a lottery system for visas. First come first serve. Rest of Canada has a points based system but is being played by low skilled workers.

AndrewUnmuted 7y ago

It's funny, since the 'first come first serve' idea has been struck down in the US as being inhumane, and has been seen this way for decades by most of the people that work inside the American political system.

Rafert 7y ago

https://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/immigrate-settle/permanent-workers/requirements-programs/index.html https://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/immigrate-settl... mentions points?

thbr99 7y ago
That points system is not followed at all. Québec immigration department is one such department in Québec which needs a thorough investigation on their practices and selection criteria. Low skilled workers from France is given undue priority in the name of language without any other employable merits.

Sytten 7y ago

I agree, I know some french people who can't get a visa in a reasonable amount of time (I would not wait for more than 3-4 months myself) despite being in a sector with shortages of workers. It makes no sense to me, especially from a government that pretends to be aligned with the needs of businesses.

mattkrause 7y ago
The “global talent” thing is weird, in that the main website talks a big game, but the fine print reveals that it only covers a few very specific jobs. Neither my wife nor I qualified (PhD researchers in ‘hot’ fields) but video game artists apparently do.
thbr99 7y ago
Quebec's immigration system denies French citizen because her thesis had English in it. This is what happens in Québec immigration department. Red tape and mismanagement. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/french-thesis-immigration-caq-1.5351155 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/french-thesis-immigr...

thescriptkiddie 7y ago

Why is everybody on here suddenly a fascist? It's like all of the hackers have been replaced with temporarily embarrassed unicorn founders.

dang 7y ago
Can you please stop using HN for ideological battle? You've done it repeatedly lately, and we ban such accounts. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and using the site in the intended spirit, we'd appreciate it.

smnrchrds 7y ago

> Québec has a lottery system for visas. Are you talking about the previous immigration framework or the new one CAQ has implemented.

thbr99 7y ago
The truth is it's not implemented yet though they say it is. Anyone that I know of are still waiting on the Québec immigration department to process their files for the past one year in the regular skilled worker category.

flukus 7y ago

> Rest of Canada has a points based system but is being played by low skilled workers. Same in Australia, so many "skilled" workers that are driving taxis, driving uber eats, working in 711, doing tier 1 tech support, etc. It's a good idea in theory but the implementation is horrible, especially when there is high youth un/under employment. It get's even worse when you combine it with the "education" paper mill industry.

cmdshiftf4 7y ago

>Rest of Canada has a points based system but is being played by low skilled workers. It's not being played by low skilled workers. It's being played by wage suppressing mega-cops such as Tim Hortons and McDonalds and low skilled migrants from places like India are unsurprisingly jumping at the opportunity to get out.

thbr99 7y ago
There was a Wendys recruitment drive in India some years back. The reason behind that was they could not find restaurant workers in Wendys Alberta. I find it very hard to believe they could not find local Canadian workers.