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> We have yet to see how the US reacts when a massive section of it wants to secede. Shutdown hundreds of critical newspapers. Suspended habeus corpus. And war

> We have yet to see how the US reacts when a massive section of it wants to secede. Shutdown hundreds of critical newspapers. Suspended habeus corpus. And war. https://wiki.lincolntelegrams.com/index.php?title=Lincoln_and_Press_Supression https://wiki.lincolntelegrams.com/index.php?title=Lincoln_an... Not to mention an unrealistic threat of secession led to the deportation of up to 2 million mexican americans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Repatriation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Repatriation Which was tied to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimmermann_Telegram https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimmermann_Telegram and accelerated due to the Great Depression. Of course the fear that japanese americans may try to secede and align with japan got them put in concentration camps. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_America... > India and China both face a significantly more difficult geopolitical reality than the USA. Both of them face separatism funded by foreign nations which adds an extra level of concern. > but to act as though a USA like policy would work in countries with very different ground realities is being willfully arrogant. If you think this is ignorant, go look up US views on free trade and protectionism. In the media, you'll see everyone say the US has always been pro-free trade. History shows otherwise. President Abraham Lincoln declared, "Give us a protective tariff and we will have the greatest nation on earth." Lincoln warned that "the abandonment of the protective policy by the American Government ... must produce want and ruin among our people." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protectionism_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protectionism_in_the_United_St... Almost all the commonly held beliefs we've been brainwashed to accept by the media are simply lies. Democracy? Ask the bolivians, venezuelans, iranians, etc. Freedom? Ask the slaves in libya or the poor slaving away in saudi arabia, kuwait, etc.

hnews_account_1 7y ago
Nobody commenting online sitting in their armchairs understands what running a nation looks like. Lincoln met secession threats by declaring them as illegal and terrorist threats and what not if I remember correctly. And he had to do it if he wanted to keep the nation together. We are much more connected now than he was in the 1800s, so the stupid people have enough voice to demand the freedom to make secession speeches. It is an unheard of concept in history and until we kill the idea of a nation state, secession is always a threat to societal fabric. But try to make a rabid liberal "muhhh democracy" crier understand this and they'll retort with nonsensical and false moral equivalents.

hnews_account_1 7y ago

Nobody commenting online sitting in their armchairs understands what running a nation looks like. Lincoln met secession threats by declaring them as illegal and terrorist threats and what not if I remember correctly. And he had to do it if he wanted to keep the nation together. We are much more connected now than he was in the 1800s, so the stupid people have enough voice to demand the freedom to make secession speeches. It is an unheard of concept in history and until we kill the idea of a nation state, secession is always a threat to societal fabric. But try to make a rabid liberal "muhhh democracy" crier understand this and they'll retort with nonsensical and false moral equivalents.