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I'm quite shoked by the level of the comments regarding Assange. Whatever you think about the character is irrelevant. Law should be the basis on any action tak

I'm quite shoked by the level of the comments regarding Assange. Whatever you think about the character is irrelevant. Law should be the basis on any action taken against him, whether he's a-hole or not. Now you can argue on whether his actions were legal (I mean, he broke US law but he's not US citizen nor living in the US so that's debatable). However there is ZERO legal basis on having someone not being taken care of while in custody.

mullingitover 7y ago
> However there is ZERO legal basis on having someone not being taken care of while in custody. Most of the health issues in question here arose when he was not in custody, but rather in self-imposed exile in the embassy. He could've walked out at any point and been treated, but that would've meant accepting the consequences for the laws he'd broken.
- 93po 7y ago
  Most of the health issues around him are being raised as a result of his stay in prison, not his asylum in the embassy.
  - mullingitover 7y ago
    Yeah, no. Read that article again, and the linked Medium post they're talking about. They're talking about health issues during his voluntary exile at the embassy. From this article: > On Nov 22, 2019, we, a group of more than 60 medical doctors, wrote to the UK Home Secretary to express our serious concerns about the physical and mental health of Julian Assange.[1]In our letter,[1] we documented a history of denial of access to health care and prolonged psychological torture. I have no sympathy for this group's claims, because he was absolutely not denied medical care. He had an outstanding arrest warrant that was completely valid, and he chose to accept the consequences of skipping bail. It's like a child running away from home because he didn't want to face prosecution for sexual assault, and then crying to the press that his parents aren't taking care of him while he's living in a flophouse. [1] https://medium.com/@doctorseh4assange/concerns-of-medical-doctors-about-the-plight-of-mr-julian-assange-ffb09a5dd588 https://medium.com/@doctorseh4assange/concerns-of-medical-do...
    - 93po 7y ago
      They mention his health declining during the embassy visit, which is relevant because he was denied the ability to get proper medical care. But most of the ongoing news of his decline is from prison. You are entirely lacking in empathy of a journalist who's done amazing things for society and is a human being. It's a shame your feelings were hurt by whichever leak came out of WikiLeaks, but it's also a shame you feel the need to perpetuate smears and dehumanize someone who's only ever had your best interests at heart. Also Assange was never facing prosecution for sexual assault. He was only wanted for questioning, blatantly for political purposes. Please stop spreading fake news
      - mullingitover 7y ago
        > It's a shame your feelings were hurt by whichever leak came out of WikiLeaks I'm more hurt about the radical transparency he espoused for others while keeping secrets like his relationship with the Trump campaign [1]. I wonder why Wikileaks didn't leak this truth[2]: > President Trump offered to pardon Julian Assange if he agreed to cover up the involvement of Russia in hacking emails from the Democratic National Committee, which were later published by WikiLeaks, a London court was told on Wednesday. [1] https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/the-secret-correspondence-between-donald-trump-jr-and-wikileaks/545738/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/the-sec... [2] https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-offered-assange-pardon-if-he-covered-up-russian-hack-court-hears?source=articles&via=rss https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-offered-assange-pardon-i...
        93po 7y ago
        I'm so over this. Please spread your misinformation elsewhere. It's a shame HN moderation only selectively enforces their policies and allows people like you to propagate lies and dishonesty.
        mullingitover 7y ago
        I'm sorry to have bothered you with the facts I presented.

mullingitover 7y ago

> However there is ZERO legal basis on having someone not being taken care of while in custody. Most of the health issues in question here arose when he was not in custody, but rather in self-imposed exile in the embassy. He could've walked out at any point and been treated, but that would've meant accepting the consequences for the laws he'd broken.

93po 7y ago
Most of the health issues around him are being raised as a result of his stay in prison, not his asylum in the embassy.
- mullingitover 7y ago
  Yeah, no. Read that article again, and the linked Medium post they're talking about. They're talking about health issues during his voluntary exile at the embassy. From this article: > On Nov 22, 2019, we, a group of more than 60 medical doctors, wrote to the UK Home Secretary to express our serious concerns about the physical and mental health of Julian Assange.[1]In our letter,[1] we documented a history of denial of access to health care and prolonged psychological torture. I have no sympathy for this group's claims, because he was absolutely not denied medical care. He had an outstanding arrest warrant that was completely valid, and he chose to accept the consequences of skipping bail. It's like a child running away from home because he didn't want to face prosecution for sexual assault, and then crying to the press that his parents aren't taking care of him while he's living in a flophouse. [1] https://medium.com/@doctorseh4assange/concerns-of-medical-doctors-about-the-plight-of-mr-julian-assange-ffb09a5dd588 https://medium.com/@doctorseh4assange/concerns-of-medical-do...
  - 93po 7y ago
    They mention his health declining during the embassy visit, which is relevant because he was denied the ability to get proper medical care. But most of the ongoing news of his decline is from prison. You are entirely lacking in empathy of a journalist who's done amazing things for society and is a human being. It's a shame your feelings were hurt by whichever leak came out of WikiLeaks, but it's also a shame you feel the need to perpetuate smears and dehumanize someone who's only ever had your best interests at heart. Also Assange was never facing prosecution for sexual assault. He was only wanted for questioning, blatantly for political purposes. Please stop spreading fake news
    - mullingitover 7y ago
      > It's a shame your feelings were hurt by whichever leak came out of WikiLeaks I'm more hurt about the radical transparency he espoused for others while keeping secrets like his relationship with the Trump campaign [1]. I wonder why Wikileaks didn't leak this truth[2]: > President Trump offered to pardon Julian Assange if he agreed to cover up the involvement of Russia in hacking emails from the Democratic National Committee, which were later published by WikiLeaks, a London court was told on Wednesday. [1] https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/the-secret-correspondence-between-donald-trump-jr-and-wikileaks/545738/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/the-sec... [2] https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-offered-assange-pardon-if-he-covered-up-russian-hack-court-hears?source=articles&via=rss https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-offered-assange-pardon-i...
      - 93po 7y ago
        I'm so over this. Please spread your misinformation elsewhere. It's a shame HN moderation only selectively enforces their policies and allows people like you to propagate lies and dishonesty.
        mullingitover 7y ago
        I'm sorry to have bothered you with the facts I presented.