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Misleading Title. It is not about using VPN but about propagating rumors. This is a law in India, as there were instances of riots caused by social media rumor

Misleading Title. It is not about using VPN but about propagating rumors. This is a law in India, as there were instances of riots caused by social media rumor. Actual News ----------- The FIR has been registered while taking cognisance of the social media posts by miscreants by using different VPNs, which are propagating rumours with regard to the current security scenario in the Kashmir valley, secessionist ideology and glorifying terrorists, the police said. I am young Techie from India too and I totally support it.

1ris 7y ago
Suppressing secession is tyranny. India should know a thing or two about that.
- shripadk 7y ago
  No one suppressed secession. There have been secession movements not just in Kashmir but in North East too. That doesn't give anyone the authority to conduct terror attacks on fellow citizens. When things go beyond a point of no return then force is needed. Since the day India Abrogated Article 370 there hasn't been one major terror attack in Kashmir. That is good enough for the rest of India that was sick and tired of hearing Civilians and Army men being targeted by terrorists in Kashmir ever since the Kashmiri Pandit exodus in the 1990s. If you want to learn a thing or two about India, you better read up on Exodus and Genocide Kashmiri Pandits and how they are now refugees in their own country. Then you have the rights to lecture Indians on what is democracy and what is tyranny. We have been the most accommodative over the years and our patience has been tested far beyond permissible limit. India already went through a terrible Partition in 1947 on Religious lines where Muslims did not want to live with Hindus. Did that solve the problem? Nope. We already had one Partition. Won't allow more. And we shouldn't even be justifying it. It is surprising to me that people here question the decisions of a Sovereign Nation on what it should and should not do. Would you be willing to have your Nation broken up into multiple pieces because some Tom, Dick or Harry doesn't like the way it is now? Don't be ridiculous!
  - selimthegrim 7y ago
    So we are going to go back to Pandits taking 75% of seats in NIT Srinagar? Is that acchhe din?
    - shripadk 7y ago
      Don't lie. NIT Srinagar is governed by the AICTE. It cannot have different rules from NITs in the rest of the country. Your hatred for Kashmiri Pandits is clearly visible for all to see. You made multiple comments on the Pandits who have suffered the most. Have some shame.
      - selimthegrim 7y ago
        I don’t hate Pandits. I had Pandit classfellows in college and Hindu friends at college and school. Shame on you for implying this. I hate that things got to this point, that’s why I bring these things up. These are complaints that people had in 1980s and you aren’t going to erase them. NIT Srinagar was formerly “Regional Engineering College”
        shripadk 7y ago
        You absolutely do. Every comment you have made has this underlying racism against the Pandits. There is no question about it. You denying it won't change the opinion I have already made about you. An NIT cannot be transformed back into an REC. I studied in NITK which was earlier KREC. When it becomes an NIT, AICTE rules apply. We had students from Kashmir studying in NITK too when I was pursuing my degree. Kashmiris have all benefits of applying for jobs, education and buying land anywhere in India but it wasn't possible for Indians to do the same as long as Article 370 existed. You talk about Pandits as if they stole your jobs and education. The 75% reservation for Pandits never existed. If you have a proof for it you are more than welcome to show. The fact of the matter is you don't. These sort of lies and deceit is what led to the Religious hysteria against Pandits eventually leading to their Genocide and Exodus. You should be thankful to them that they did not resort to violence or took revenge. You drove the Pandits out. Fine. Then what did you do? Did you send your children to schools and get them a good education in NIT Srinagar? You did not. You made them pick up stones and then when they graduated from stone pelting, thrust AK-47 in their hands. 30 years since the Exodus, Kashmiri Muslim children are not at all on par with the rest of India. I saw how my friends from Kashmir struggled in NITK. First of all their representation was so poor. Just 3 Kashmiri Muslims in the batch I graduated from. Rest of the States sent a minimum of 20 students. Worst part was that the 3 Kashmiri Muslim students had gotten admission through various quotas. If not for those quotas their ranks would never have gotten them seats in NITK. So what did you achieve by kicking out the Pandits? Did the Kashmiri children grow up to be Doctors, Engineers, Scientists or Artists? Barring a few exceptions here and there most still don't have access to basic education. Despite the fact that approximately 10% of annual budget was reserved for Jammu and Kashmir the past 3 decades. If my State (Karnataka) had gotten that kind of allocation from annual budget we would have transformed Karnataka into a World class State with Hi-Tech infrastructure and excellent education and health system. Not to mention the amount we would have spent on tourism! With the limited budget we could do so much. You get 10% of the annual budget every year for 30 years. And yet Jammu and Kashmir is lacking majorly in infrastructure and education. Who gobbled up all that money? Muftis, Abdullahs or the Geelanis? You can't even blame Jammu or Ladakh for this mismanagement and corruption because they were under your mercy. So stop lying. We are not stupid. We have done enough for Kashmir and did not get anything back in return. You couldn't manage anything. Neither monetary management nor instill social harmony. You were a failure in all counts. A failed society in Paradise. What can be a greater shame than that? Now that Article 370 has been abrogated, we'll do the management. You will then notice the real difference in the next few years once Terrorism has been reigned in. You'll also see what you lost in the process all these 30 years. Today Jammu, Kashmir and Ladakh should have been a model state with World class infrastructure for the kind of budget it received for 30 years. But unfortunately it is not. But now it'll be and you'll be a witness to that transformation. At least this time don't repeat the blunders of the past. And before you point your finger at others first introspect on how big a failure you have been. Both as a movement and in your attitude towards your fellow brothers and sisters from another Religion. You fanned the hatred. Now don't cry if people at the receiving end of your hate are angry. We all have a limit. Don't test those limits.
- nu2ycombinator 7y ago
  It is not tyranny, when it involves terrorism. There were multiple demands for secession in the past across Punjab, assam and all were resolved through dialog. Problem with Kashmir is, it Foreign Funded terrorism and there were attempts for discussions in the past and which didn't work
  - stordoff 7y ago
    > It is not tyranny, when it involves terrorism I'm not sure I would otherwise bring this up, as it's of tangential relevancy at best, but to return to GP's point, could the prelude to Indian independence (c. 1900-1920), and the response of the colonial government, not be described in similar terms? http://theconversation.com/the-forgotten-violence-that-helped-india-break-free-from-colonial-rule-57904 http://theconversation.com/the-forgotten-violence-that-helpe...
    - nu2ycombinator 7y ago
      Both are completely different. In colonial government, people does not have equal rights. Britishers more interested in taking riches to their country than interested in welfare of the people. In this current scenario, every citizen has equal rights and can become PM too. P.S. Your English is very deep.
_jgdh 7y ago
Tell me Young Techie, how do you tell the difference between someone who is alleged to have spread rumours and someone speaking the truth? And when you say you totally support it, do you support everything the BJP has done?
- nu2ycombinator 7y ago
  Seems like your comments motivated mainly based on anti BJP than the topic in discussion. Just to keep your mind at peace, From this point onwards, I 100% support BJP.

1ris 7y ago

Suppressing secession is tyranny. India should know a thing or two about that.

shripadk 7y ago
No one suppressed secession. There have been secession movements not just in Kashmir but in North East too. That doesn't give anyone the authority to conduct terror attacks on fellow citizens. When things go beyond a point of no return then force is needed. Since the day India Abrogated Article 370 there hasn't been one major terror attack in Kashmir. That is good enough for the rest of India that was sick and tired of hearing Civilians and Army men being targeted by terrorists in Kashmir ever since the Kashmiri Pandit exodus in the 1990s. If you want to learn a thing or two about India, you better read up on Exodus and Genocide Kashmiri Pandits and how they are now refugees in their own country. Then you have the rights to lecture Indians on what is democracy and what is tyranny. We have been the most accommodative over the years and our patience has been tested far beyond permissible limit. India already went through a terrible Partition in 1947 on Religious lines where Muslims did not want to live with Hindus. Did that solve the problem? Nope. We already had one Partition. Won't allow more. And we shouldn't even be justifying it. It is surprising to me that people here question the decisions of a Sovereign Nation on what it should and should not do. Would you be willing to have your Nation broken up into multiple pieces because some Tom, Dick or Harry doesn't like the way it is now? Don't be ridiculous!
- selimthegrim 7y ago
  So we are going to go back to Pandits taking 75% of seats in NIT Srinagar? Is that acchhe din?
  - shripadk 7y ago
    Don't lie. NIT Srinagar is governed by the AICTE. It cannot have different rules from NITs in the rest of the country. Your hatred for Kashmiri Pandits is clearly visible for all to see. You made multiple comments on the Pandits who have suffered the most. Have some shame.
    - selimthegrim 7y ago
      I don’t hate Pandits. I had Pandit classfellows in college and Hindu friends at college and school. Shame on you for implying this. I hate that things got to this point, that’s why I bring these things up. These are complaints that people had in 1980s and you aren’t going to erase them. NIT Srinagar was formerly “Regional Engineering College”
      - shripadk 7y ago
        You absolutely do. Every comment you have made has this underlying racism against the Pandits. There is no question about it. You denying it won't change the opinion I have already made about you. An NIT cannot be transformed back into an REC. I studied in NITK which was earlier KREC. When it becomes an NIT, AICTE rules apply. We had students from Kashmir studying in NITK too when I was pursuing my degree. Kashmiris have all benefits of applying for jobs, education and buying land anywhere in India but it wasn't possible for Indians to do the same as long as Article 370 existed. You talk about Pandits as if they stole your jobs and education. The 75% reservation for Pandits never existed. If you have a proof for it you are more than welcome to show. The fact of the matter is you don't. These sort of lies and deceit is what led to the Religious hysteria against Pandits eventually leading to their Genocide and Exodus. You should be thankful to them that they did not resort to violence or took revenge. You drove the Pandits out. Fine. Then what did you do? Did you send your children to schools and get them a good education in NIT Srinagar? You did not. You made them pick up stones and then when they graduated from stone pelting, thrust AK-47 in their hands. 30 years since the Exodus, Kashmiri Muslim children are not at all on par with the rest of India. I saw how my friends from Kashmir struggled in NITK. First of all their representation was so poor. Just 3 Kashmiri Muslims in the batch I graduated from. Rest of the States sent a minimum of 20 students. Worst part was that the 3 Kashmiri Muslim students had gotten admission through various quotas. If not for those quotas their ranks would never have gotten them seats in NITK. So what did you achieve by kicking out the Pandits? Did the Kashmiri children grow up to be Doctors, Engineers, Scientists or Artists? Barring a few exceptions here and there most still don't have access to basic education. Despite the fact that approximately 10% of annual budget was reserved for Jammu and Kashmir the past 3 decades. If my State (Karnataka) had gotten that kind of allocation from annual budget we would have transformed Karnataka into a World class State with Hi-Tech infrastructure and excellent education and health system. Not to mention the amount we would have spent on tourism! With the limited budget we could do so much. You get 10% of the annual budget every year for 30 years. And yet Jammu and Kashmir is lacking majorly in infrastructure and education. Who gobbled up all that money? Muftis, Abdullahs or the Geelanis? You can't even blame Jammu or Ladakh for this mismanagement and corruption because they were under your mercy. So stop lying. We are not stupid. We have done enough for Kashmir and did not get anything back in return. You couldn't manage anything. Neither monetary management nor instill social harmony. You were a failure in all counts. A failed society in Paradise. What can be a greater shame than that? Now that Article 370 has been abrogated, we'll do the management. You will then notice the real difference in the next few years once Terrorism has been reigned in. You'll also see what you lost in the process all these 30 years. Today Jammu, Kashmir and Ladakh should have been a model state with World class infrastructure for the kind of budget it received for 30 years. But unfortunately it is not. But now it'll be and you'll be a witness to that transformation. At least this time don't repeat the blunders of the past. And before you point your finger at others first introspect on how big a failure you have been. Both as a movement and in your attitude towards your fellow brothers and sisters from another Religion. You fanned the hatred. Now don't cry if people at the receiving end of your hate are angry. We all have a limit. Don't test those limits.
nu2ycombinator 7y ago
It is not tyranny, when it involves terrorism. There were multiple demands for secession in the past across Punjab, assam and all were resolved through dialog. Problem with Kashmir is, it Foreign Funded terrorism and there were attempts for discussions in the past and which didn't work
- stordoff 7y ago
  > It is not tyranny, when it involves terrorism I'm not sure I would otherwise bring this up, as it's of tangential relevancy at best, but to return to GP's point, could the prelude to Indian independence (c. 1900-1920), and the response of the colonial government, not be described in similar terms? http://theconversation.com/the-forgotten-violence-that-helped-india-break-free-from-colonial-rule-57904 http://theconversation.com/the-forgotten-violence-that-helpe...
  - nu2ycombinator 7y ago
    Both are completely different. In colonial government, people does not have equal rights. Britishers more interested in taking riches to their country than interested in welfare of the people. In this current scenario, every citizen has equal rights and can become PM too. P.S. Your English is very deep.

_jgdh 7y ago

Tell me Young Techie, how do you tell the difference between someone who is alleged to have spread rumours and someone speaking the truth? And when you say you totally support it, do you support everything the BJP has done?

nu2ycombinator 7y ago
Seems like your comments motivated mainly based on anti BJP than the topic in discussion. Just to keep your mind at peace, From this point onwards, I 100% support BJP.