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The first thing on your list is "abundant free parking". Not the coast, or the redwoods, or the cool book store, but the free parking.

by davidw 7y ago

casefields 7y ago
It's like free water at restaurants, it's not actually free and we appreciate it having it.
- davidw 7y ago
  Except that free parking is terrible in a lot of ways, not a tiny cost of doing business at a restaurant. And if it's something you really love, there is tons of it available in Walmarts all around the midwest. https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2018/11/20/the-many-costs-of-too-much-parking https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2018/11/20/the-many-cost...
  - protomyth 7y ago
    Well, no. A lot of Walmarts, particularly in oil country, got rid of the free parking because of people abusing it. Its problematic for sales if people are worried about their safety in a store's parking lot.
pengaru 7y ago
The free parking had a significant impact on what kind of people you encountered in town. I lived in a redwood forest near the coast at the time, so what Santa Cruz offered in those areas didn't really affect me. I didn't go to Santa Cruz to see redwoods or the ocean, I went for the quirky town and to hang out around interesting people in a nearby urban center (I lived in Butano SP).
- rcpt 7y ago
  Don't live in the redwoods it's why we have fires. And I'm not sure what you're upset about here your nature destroying frontiersman fantasy is still very much alive in Bonny Doon
  - pengaru 7y ago
    > Don't live in the redwoods it's why we have fires. And I'm not sure what you're upset about here your nature destroying frontiersman fantasy is still very much alive in Bonny Doon It wasn't illicit, the area around the park isn't well defined and there's plenty of private property out there which the park's trails run straight through. I don't know what you're talking about WRT "frontiersman fantasy", my downtown Santa Cruz complaints have absolutely no relation to a frontiersman fantasy.
    - rcpt 7y ago
      > illicit The fires are the result of power lines and infrastructure supporting unnecessary exurban sprawl out into our redwoods. Not to mention the septic leaking from houses into the rivers and springs. People should not live up there.
      - pengaru 7y ago
        That's just like, your opinion, man.
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The first thing on your list is "abundant free parking". Not the coast, or the redwoods, or the cool book store, but the free parking.

by davidw 7y ago

The first thing on your list is "abundant free parking". Not the coast, or the redwoods, or the cool book store, but the free parking.

casefields 7y ago

It's like free water at restaurants, it's not actually free and we appreciate it having it.

davidw 7y ago
Except that free parking is terrible in a lot of ways, not a tiny cost of doing business at a restaurant. And if it's something you really love, there is tons of it available in Walmarts all around the midwest. https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2018/11/20/the-many-costs-of-too-much-parking https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2018/11/20/the-many-cost...
- protomyth 7y ago
  Well, no. A lot of Walmarts, particularly in oil country, got rid of the free parking because of people abusing it. Its problematic for sales if people are worried about their safety in a store's parking lot.

pengaru 7y ago

The free parking had a significant impact on what kind of people you encountered in town. I lived in a redwood forest near the coast at the time, so what Santa Cruz offered in those areas didn't really affect me. I didn't go to Santa Cruz to see redwoods or the ocean, I went for the quirky town and to hang out around interesting people in a nearby urban center (I lived in Butano SP).

rcpt 7y ago
Don't live in the redwoods it's why we have fires. And I'm not sure what you're upset about here your nature destroying frontiersman fantasy is still very much alive in Bonny Doon
- pengaru 7y ago
  > Don't live in the redwoods it's why we have fires. And I'm not sure what you're upset about here your nature destroying frontiersman fantasy is still very much alive in Bonny Doon It wasn't illicit, the area around the park isn't well defined and there's plenty of private property out there which the park's trails run straight through. I don't know what you're talking about WRT "frontiersman fantasy", my downtown Santa Cruz complaints have absolutely no relation to a frontiersman fantasy.
  - rcpt 7y ago
    > illicit The fires are the result of power lines and infrastructure supporting unnecessary exurban sprawl out into our redwoods. Not to mention the septic leaking from houses into the rivers and springs. People should not live up there.
    - pengaru 7y ago
      That's just like, your opinion, man.
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