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Can anyone contribute a source which doesn't break EU regulations by forcing me to accept cookies?

by ThePowerOfFuet 7y ago

bhaavan 7y ago
In this context, this is a very funny "first world problem".
all_blue_chucks 7y ago
Right Click -> Open link in new private window
macinjosh 7y ago
> by forcing me to accept cookies I really don't understand this mindset of a default behavior (e.g. use of cookies) is equivalent to _forcing_ something on someone. You have lots of choices around cookies because the program that stores and shares them is under your own control. Which sites you visit is under your control. Your Internet connection is under your control. God knows why we need a nanny state that represents a small minority of the world to decide how the world wide web should work.
hadrien01 7y ago
Blocking Javascript seems to be enough to read the article
Spare_account 7y ago
https://outline.com/https://techcrunch.com/2020/02/18/indian-police-open-case-against-hundreds-in-kashmir-for-using-vpn/ https://outline.com/https://techcrunch.com/2020/02/18/indian...
- PeterisP 7y ago
  "Something went wrong. We're sorry. This page failed to Outline."
fennecfoxen 7y ago
This is not the same coverage, but it does seem related, and I'm reasonably sure that the response that is served to Europeans is compliant with European regulations. https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-02-14/india-keeps-lid-on-kashmirs-internet-6-months-into-lockdown https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-02-14/india-...
wolco 7y ago
Make your choice: Accept that the next time you visit they will remember you. or Choose not to visit. or Delete your cookie or use curl or go private browser mode or hunt in google for the title to read the cache page or pay someone to copy over the contents to text. Plenty of choices. I'd go private browser mode in your case. Well I would just accept the cookie.
- fennecfoxen 7y ago
  Why would anyone bother with doing that when they could simply act righteously indignant, and post complaints that some uppity American-based website is noncompliant with their enlightened and unimpeachable European dictates?
- PeterisP 7y ago
  It's not really about the cookies - it does not limit itself to "the next time you visit they will remember you" - even in the case of private browser mode (or if deleting cookies) it won't proceed without "agreeing" to the use of cookies and other similar technologies (i.e. whatever fingerprinting methods they can figure out - their privacy policy lists that they're tracking pretty much everything that I could think of, including my actions on other sites) and granting permission to a very large number of third parties to use this data in the future. That's not reasonable. Consent must be freely given (and if provision of services is conditional on consent, then it shall be deemed not freely given), it must be opt-in and it shall be as easy to withdraw consent as it was to give it. And if your legal basis for processing data is something other than consent, then don't ask to "agree" to it, implying that this happens with consent - but in their case their privacy policy does list consent as the basis for processing this data. Their current behavior of "surely you'll permit us to track everything" is both immoral and illegal, and it should be eliminated, not tolerated. It's worth noting that they are an exception. While various "GDPR-banners" are quite popular, as a matter of principle, I never agree to anything on them and refuse consent to everything, and it turns out that it's not a problem for most sites, they note the preference, follow the law and it ends at that. GDPR has no issues with storing a non-personalized cookie noting that preference, which some sites do, so as not to ask every time. So the fact that Verizon Media is agressively flounting the law is not appropriate. Most of the fault probably lies with the Irish regulator, which has been far too lax in proactively policing the many international companies (including Verizon Media) which have their EU operations and their GDPR compliance domiciled in Ireland, but I'm sure we'll force things to change eventually.

Can anyone contribute a source which doesn't break EU regulations by forcing me to accept cookies?

bhaavan 7y ago

In this context, this is a very funny "first world problem".

all_blue_chucks 7y ago

Right Click -> Open link in new private window

macinjosh 7y ago

> by forcing me to accept cookies I really don't understand this mindset of a default behavior (e.g. use of cookies) is equivalent to _forcing_ something on someone. You have lots of choices around cookies because the program that stores and shares them is under your own control. Which sites you visit is under your control. Your Internet connection is under your control. God knows why we need a nanny state that represents a small minority of the world to decide how the world wide web should work.

hadrien01 7y ago

Blocking Javascript seems to be enough to read the article

Spare_account 7y ago

https://outline.com/https://techcrunch.com/2020/02/18/indian-police-open-case-against-hundreds-in-kashmir-for-using-vpn/ https://outline.com/https://techcrunch.com/2020/02/18/indian...

PeterisP 7y ago
"Something went wrong. We're sorry. This page failed to Outline."

fennecfoxen 7y ago

This is not the same coverage, but it does seem related, and I'm reasonably sure that the response that is served to Europeans is compliant with European regulations. https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-02-14/india-keeps-lid-on-kashmirs-internet-6-months-into-lockdown https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-02-14/india-...

wolco 7y ago

Make your choice: Accept that the next time you visit they will remember you. or Choose not to visit. or Delete your cookie or use curl or go private browser mode or hunt in google for the title to read the cache page or pay someone to copy over the contents to text. Plenty of choices. I'd go private browser mode in your case. Well I would just accept the cookie.

fennecfoxen 7y ago
Why would anyone bother with doing that when they could simply act righteously indignant, and post complaints that some uppity American-based website is noncompliant with their enlightened and unimpeachable European dictates?
PeterisP 7y ago
It's not really about the cookies - it does not limit itself to "the next time you visit they will remember you" - even in the case of private browser mode (or if deleting cookies) it won't proceed without "agreeing" to the use of cookies and other similar technologies (i.e. whatever fingerprinting methods they can figure out - their privacy policy lists that they're tracking pretty much everything that I could think of, including my actions on other sites) and granting permission to a very large number of third parties to use this data in the future. That's not reasonable. Consent must be freely given (and if provision of services is conditional on consent, then it shall be deemed not freely given), it must be opt-in and it shall be as easy to withdraw consent as it was to give it. And if your legal basis for processing data is something other than consent, then don't ask to "agree" to it, implying that this happens with consent - but in their case their privacy policy does list consent as the basis for processing this data. Their current behavior of "surely you'll permit us to track everything" is both immoral and illegal, and it should be eliminated, not tolerated. It's worth noting that they are an exception. While various "GDPR-banners" are quite popular, as a matter of principle, I never agree to anything on them and refuse consent to everything, and it turns out that it's not a problem for most sites, they note the preference, follow the law and it ends at that. GDPR has no issues with storing a non-personalized cookie noting that preference, which some sites do, so as not to ask every time. So the fact that Verizon Media is agressively flounting the law is not appropriate. Most of the fault probably lies with the Irish regulator, which has been far too lax in proactively policing the many international companies (including Verizon Media) which have their EU operations and their GDPR compliance domiciled in Ireland, but I'm sure we'll force things to change eventually.