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> If you've never made any particular use of StackOverflow I would have made use of it... if I didn't have to post questions I have no interest in posting to f

> If you've never made any particular use of StackOverflow I would have made use of it... if I didn't have to post questions I have no interest in posting to farm enough reputation to actually do anything to fix the incorrect answers I occasionally stumble across in Google searches. > It would probably take you as much effort to get 50 rep Again, I have zero interest in posting questions just to farm reputation. Less than zero, actually, because of the mental overhead involved in doing so.

jodrellblank 7y ago
Do you understand that from the other side, you aren't a known skilled developer submitting valid corrections, you are indistinguishable from any other internet IP address submitting spam and/or low grade buggy misunderstandings? One way they distinguish people who care about code from complete robo-junk is with a minimal effort barrier of community upvotes, which you refuse to engage with. They don't know you're special and important enough to skip the entrance requirements - how should they know? What the system sees is that you won't put effort in to get 50 karma. You want to skip their criteria because you say you are good enough - yet everyone including spambots would say they were good enough to skip the criteria. If the filter was "verified members of the ACM/IEEE/IETF/whatever can bypass the 50 point requirements" would that be better? Or would proving your identity and membership details still be too high effort? What test wouldn't be too high effort for you to bother, but would still be something that could be automated by stackoverflow and would cut out a huge mass of spam?
- fwip 7y ago
  If it's trivial to reach 50 rep by asking questions, how does it prevent unskilled developers from submitting corrections?
  - jodrellblank 7y ago
    Unskilled developers won't find it trivial. See the new question review queues for the kinds of questions submitted by people who can be bothered to sign up and try to participate for evidence towards this claim. e.g. right now there's one which isn't about programming it's about system administration, doesn't explain what they tried, and concludes with "it is not working" with no further details. This first-question is not likely to get upvoted. By being a minimum-competence filter it's not selecting in only the most skilled developers, it's selecting out huge swathes of people who don't want to do what stackoverflow wants its users to do. People who submit terrible contributions will fall below 50 rep and lose the ability to do so.

jodrellblank 7y ago

Do you understand that from the other side, you aren't a known skilled developer submitting valid corrections, you are indistinguishable from any other internet IP address submitting spam and/or low grade buggy misunderstandings? One way they distinguish people who care about code from complete robo-junk is with a minimal effort barrier of community upvotes, which you refuse to engage with. They don't know you're special and important enough to skip the entrance requirements - how should they know? What the system sees is that you won't put effort in to get 50 karma. You want to skip their criteria because you say you are good enough - yet everyone including spambots would say they were good enough to skip the criteria. If the filter was "verified members of the ACM/IEEE/IETF/whatever can bypass the 50 point requirements" would that be better? Or would proving your identity and membership details still be too high effort? What test wouldn't be too high effort for you to bother, but would still be something that could be automated by stackoverflow and would cut out a huge mass of spam?

fwip 7y ago
If it's trivial to reach 50 rep by asking questions, how does it prevent unskilled developers from submitting corrections?
- jodrellblank 7y ago
  Unskilled developers won't find it trivial. See the new question review queues for the kinds of questions submitted by people who can be bothered to sign up and try to participate for evidence towards this claim. e.g. right now there's one which isn't about programming it's about system administration, doesn't explain what they tried, and concludes with "it is not working" with no further details. This first-question is not likely to get upvoted. By being a minimum-competence filter it's not selecting in only the most skilled developers, it's selecting out huge swathes of people who don't want to do what stackoverflow wants its users to do. People who submit terrible contributions will fall below 50 rep and lose the ability to do so.