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Leave money negotiations off the table, and you could have a union establish a single consistent process for firing practices that'd protect someone like James
by Frondo 7y ago
Leave money negotiations off the table, and you could have a union establish a single consistent process for firing practices that'd protect someone like James Damore from being arbitrarily fired.
I don't agree with what Damore had to say, but that shouldn't matter! I would absolutely support a union-backed fair process for evaluating his or anyone's continued employment, whatever controversial things they write about.
"Union stops arbitrary firing of controversial high-performer Damore" would bring a tear to my eye, no matter who it is.
- throwGuardian 7y agoThe most likely outcome is the election of a far-left socialist/communist to the helm, because everyone else will be bullied out of power with accusations of "racism". Once the unions become this way, do you really believe the communist-far-left types care for freedom of speech of an employee whose views they disagree with? Part of me is extremely happy with this trend, because silicon valley tech types tend to shill for extreme socialist political positions that are in stark contrast with their status quo(these people take home $500K, live in multi-million dollar homes, work for offshore-tax dodging capitalist giants like Google, Appl, etc. but somehow their politics is socialist.)
- Osiris 7y agoThis kind of comment is unproductive here. There are no communists running for president. You're exaggerating for dramatic effect. Please review the HN guidelines.
- throwGuardian 7y agoIronic. The comment is a case of a union supporter calling for tone policing of a critic, almost proving the supposition of the parent comment.
- dang 7y agoPlease don't use HN for political or ideological warfare. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- coredog64 7y agoAIUI, failing to represent a union member would be a short, fast path to getting a union decertified. This is one of the major differences between the US and say Germany. There, the union can decide someone is a butthead and decline to help. US unions have no such flexibility. This is down to shenanigans in the 50s involving racial discrimination.
- three_seagrass 7y agoJames Damore was fired for perpetuating gender stereotypes, which he agreed he wouldn't do in the Google code of conduct. Even Damore confirmed this with the press. How would being unionized change that?