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NBA players association, actors guild, writers guild etc are famous examples of "rewarding high performing employees"

by lexs 7y ago

evunveot 7y ago
I'd argue those are more like cartels than unions.
thefreeman 7y ago
> NBA player association I disagree. The NBA players association looks out for the mid level role players (who make up a vast majority of the league) over the highest performing players. The top tier of NBA players are essentially "underpaid" compared to their worth due to maximum salaries. This makes room for mid level guys to make 10-15 million per year. If there was no maximum salary there would be a massive bidding war for the top tier players, and the remaining small slice of pie would have to be split among everyone else.
- claudeganon 7y ago
  Judging from this post, I’m not sure you fully grasp how basketball works nor the underlying concept of “team sports.” Even MJ needed 4 other guys on his side to win.
  - jkingsbery 7y ago
    While it may be true that team sports need multiple players, several players have currently signed "supermax contracts." Since they signed a maximum contract, their team would be willing to pay them more, so they are underpaid. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_salary_cap#Supermax_contracts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_salary_cap#Supermax_contra...
    - piva00 7y ago
      If you call US$ 201 million underpaid, sure. Or maybe US$ 229 million. This is a ridiculous amount to play ball, if that cap means that mid level players get a decent life I think it's more than fair enough. I don't think a salary cap of a couple hundred millions of dollars would stop any human being innovating to get to such a job, I'm sorry.
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lr4444lr 7y ago
Every one of those also famously enforces a closed shop for the positions most people have in mind when they think of "high performers".
TwoFactor 7y ago
It's interesting that those are all effectively monopolies on the talent. I wonder if that just counters the brain-drain the parent comment was referring to since high performers can't leave the union for a non-union role.

NBA players association, actors guild, writers guild etc are famous examples of "rewarding high performing employees"

by lexs 7y ago

NBA players association, actors guild, writers guild etc are famous examples of "rewarding high performing employees"

evunveot 7y ago

I'd argue those are more like cartels than unions.

thefreeman 7y ago

> NBA player association I disagree. The NBA players association looks out for the mid level role players (who make up a vast majority of the league) over the highest performing players. The top tier of NBA players are essentially "underpaid" compared to their worth due to maximum salaries. This makes room for mid level guys to make 10-15 million per year. If there was no maximum salary there would be a massive bidding war for the top tier players, and the remaining small slice of pie would have to be split among everyone else.

claudeganon 7y ago
Judging from this post, I’m not sure you fully grasp how basketball works nor the underlying concept of “team sports.” Even MJ needed 4 other guys on his side to win.
- jkingsbery 7y ago
  While it may be true that team sports need multiple players, several players have currently signed "supermax contracts." Since they signed a maximum contract, their team would be willing to pay them more, so they are underpaid. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_salary_cap#Supermax_contracts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_salary_cap#Supermax_contra...
  - piva00 7y ago
    If you call US$ 201 million underpaid, sure. Or maybe US$ 229 million. This is a ridiculous amount to play ball, if that cap means that mid level players get a decent life I think it's more than fair enough. I don't think a salary cap of a couple hundred millions of dollars would stop any human being innovating to get to such a job, I'm sorry.
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lr4444lr 7y ago

Every one of those also famously enforces a closed shop for the positions most people have in mind when they think of "high performers".

TwoFactor 7y ago

It's interesting that those are all effectively monopolies on the talent. I wonder if that just counters the brain-drain the parent comment was referring to since high performers can't leave the union for a non-union role.