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It might sound crazy but the govt DID this for cigarettes. Have you read the warning on cigarettes? I mean just look at the suggested box design here: https://

It might sound crazy but the govt DID this for cigarettes. Have you read the warning on cigarettes? I mean just look at the suggested box design here: https://www.fda.gov/tobacco-products/labeling-and-warning-statements-tobacco-products/fda-proposes-new-health-warnings-cigarette-packs-and-ads https://www.fda.gov/tobacco-products/labeling-and-warning-st... I mean really look at that, and fully take in the notion that our government required that. That, that takes balls.

joering2 7y ago
If you think that takes balls, then you have no idea how big are European Union balls. Just google “cigarette packages in europe” and get ready to get seriously shocked.
- capableweb 7y ago
  As a European, I think Australia went even further and just removed all the branding from packages completely. In Europe, brands still get to have some design.
  - plop_ 7y ago
    Seems like some EU countries are now requiring a plain packaging too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plain_tobacco_packaging#By_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plain_tobacco_packaging#By_cou...
  - gambiting 7y ago
    "Europe" is not a single place with one set of regulations - in the UK for instance there is no branding on packages at all. It's called "standardised plain packaging": https://ash.org.uk/category/information-and-resources/packaging-labelling-information-and-resources/standardised-plain-packaging/ https://ash.org.uk/category/information-and-resources/packag...
  - ggcdn 7y ago
    Canadian packages too. They required a rather graphic health warning over 50% of the surface area (showing a smokers lungs with explanation, etc) and also removed branding. So it’s a giant health warning over the top half, and then a plain brown lower half with the name/type
    - justaguyhere 7y ago
      Curious - do these packages work? Have they reduced smoking addiction?
      - mantap 7y ago
        Maybe. What helps more is 1) indoor smoking bans, stopping people from smoking socially inside bars and restaurants, 2) heavy taxation, 3) vaping.
      - dwild 7y ago
        I don't know if it apply to the whole country or only my province (Quebec) but since then we also added that they can't be marketed at all. That include not being visible in a convenience store. I don't know how effective the pictures were, but not being visible that must have affected the statistics too.
      - ggcdn 7y ago
        (I don't smoke btw, but my father-in-law smokes like a chimney) Its hard to relate cause and effects, but I see a noticeable decline in smoking among younger people, and smoking has become very uncool. People will also make a big deal about second hand smoke, for instance if you're near a bus stop or busy sidewalk you may get called out. I don't know if anything besides medical intervention can stop a seasoned veteran smoker, though. Packaging certainly hasn't had any effect on my few family members that smoke.
        ApolloFortyNine 7y ago
        In the U.S smoking has dramatically decreased, and we don't have totally insane packaging like Canada/some of the EU. [1] [1] https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/08/cdc-says-smoking-rates-fall-to-record-low-in-us.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/08/cdc-says-smoking-rates-fall-... Smoking has just generally fallen by the way side worldwide.
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Kiro 7y ago
What are you talking about? That (and way more explicit) has been standard in most western countries for decades. The US is just slow to adapt modern practices. No balls involved there.

joering2 7y ago

If you think that takes balls, then you have no idea how big are European Union balls. Just google “cigarette packages in europe” and get ready to get seriously shocked.

capableweb 7y ago
As a European, I think Australia went even further and just removed all the branding from packages completely. In Europe, brands still get to have some design.
- plop_ 7y ago
  Seems like some EU countries are now requiring a plain packaging too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plain_tobacco_packaging#By_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plain_tobacco_packaging#By_cou...
- gambiting 7y ago
  "Europe" is not a single place with one set of regulations - in the UK for instance there is no branding on packages at all. It's called "standardised plain packaging": https://ash.org.uk/category/information-and-resources/packaging-labelling-information-and-resources/standardised-plain-packaging/ https://ash.org.uk/category/information-and-resources/packag...
- ggcdn 7y ago
  Canadian packages too. They required a rather graphic health warning over 50% of the surface area (showing a smokers lungs with explanation, etc) and also removed branding. So it’s a giant health warning over the top half, and then a plain brown lower half with the name/type
  - justaguyhere 7y ago
    Curious - do these packages work? Have they reduced smoking addiction?
    - mantap 7y ago
      Maybe. What helps more is 1) indoor smoking bans, stopping people from smoking socially inside bars and restaurants, 2) heavy taxation, 3) vaping.
    - dwild 7y ago
      I don't know if it apply to the whole country or only my province (Quebec) but since then we also added that they can't be marketed at all. That include not being visible in a convenience store. I don't know how effective the pictures were, but not being visible that must have affected the statistics too.
    - ggcdn 7y ago
      (I don't smoke btw, but my father-in-law smokes like a chimney) Its hard to relate cause and effects, but I see a noticeable decline in smoking among younger people, and smoking has become very uncool. People will also make a big deal about second hand smoke, for instance if you're near a bus stop or busy sidewalk you may get called out. I don't know if anything besides medical intervention can stop a seasoned veteran smoker, though. Packaging certainly hasn't had any effect on my few family members that smoke.
      - ApolloFortyNine 7y ago
        In the U.S smoking has dramatically decreased, and we don't have totally insane packaging like Canada/some of the EU. [1] [1] https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/08/cdc-says-smoking-rates-fall-to-record-low-in-us.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/08/cdc-says-smoking-rates-fall-... Smoking has just generally fallen by the way side worldwide.

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Kiro 7y ago

What are you talking about? That (and way more explicit) has been standard in most western countries for decades. The US is just slow to adapt modern practices. No balls involved there.