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The comments in that discussion seem a bit xenophobic. There is value in being able to reliably filter by language. After all, if you can't understand a lectur
by CiPHPerCoder 7y ago
The comments in that discussion seem a bit xenophobic.
There is value in being able to reliably filter by language. After all, if you can't understand a lecture video, then there's little point in watching it.
But how some of the commenters choose to express their thoughts comes across more as "I hate people from India" than "This is inconvenient".
- OldGuyInTheClub 7y agoYeah, the hate flows strongly doesn't it? But, the BlockTube extension from Chrome can be configured to hide channels/videos based on Unicode regexps. An equally honked off YT user asked about this problem on the project's Github page and got some suggestions. https://github.com/amitbl/blocktube/issues/38 https://github.com/amitbl/blocktube/issues/38
- aviraldg 7y agoRather amusingly, the author of the project appears to be of Indian origin (based on the username)
- OldGuyInTheClub 7y agoYes, I wondered if s/he is. Measured response, if so. It's a good extension and works well in combination with uBlock Origin to curb some of YT's excesses. The latest redesign makes life more difficult, though. Previously there were ways to block categories. Now, everything blends together and when the blocklists get large, pages get sluggish (as is to be expected.)
- fellellor 7y agoThanks for the link. A lot of helpful stuff on that page.
- OldGuyInTheClub 7y agoNo problem. As a person of Indian origin, I feel somewhat guilty for glomming my own filtering questions on that Github thread. But, I continue in my quest to block YT's recommended pop music videos by any means necessary. I have my own visceral reactions to things... O for a Vevo -> /dev/null filter
- fellellor 7y agoThere is too much of that going around these days. Almost as if it’s in fashion. It doesn’t really bother me, except for the ones saying, "I’m Indian too, and I hate my kind". Also, some might not know this, but English is pretty widely spoken in India. It’s common to come across words from many languages, including English, interspersed in conversations. And also, my YouTube is filled with these elaborate cooking videos from China and east Asia. Tech content from Germany, that I can’t understand. It’s never really bothered me though. In general, it’s accurate to say that I’ve never come across great videos because YouTube recommended them to me.
- sk0g 7y ago> It’s common to come across words from many languages, including English, interspersed in conversations. A bit more than common! If you watch Indian (or at least Hindi) TV, you'll understand about every third word. When I was there a lot of youth would either never use, or even not know what common words were in their native language, say words like problem or college. That does not mean that they have a good grasp of English though. Vocabulary and sentence structure are different beasts entirely, and had I not known the native language, I would have had much more difficulty understanding English/Hinglish - lots of direct translations just didn't work in English. This is common for pretty much anyone that learns a language, though.
- SyneRyder 7y ago> my YouTube is filled with these elaborate cooking videos from China and east Asia. Tech content from Germany, that I can’t understand. It’s never really bothered me though. I'm a little confused at how people are getting these bad recommendations from YouTube, because my recommendations - at least on my Samsung TV's YouTube app - are mostly spot on. It knows I'm interested in music production, long form studio tours and interviews, 8-bit retro gear & repair, and that's pretty much all it recommends. It can infer that from my subscriptions, but seems to go more by what I actually watch & like. I assume you are clicking like on the videos that you enjoyed? Do you treat YouTube like a spam filter and rate things as "Not Interested" if it recommends something wrong? Or maybe Google's algorithms are just really really terrible outside of US / UK / Canada / Aus? On the other hand, my recommendations on the mobile app aren't as good. It's almost as if YouTube treats each client as a separate account/context, even though I'm signed in on all of them.
- DataFly 7y agoRelax and keep your emotions in check. They are not irrationally scared of Indians, they are annoyed that Indian videos are flooding their feeds, they want different content and that is common sense in this context. If the Indian videos were if sufficient quality the problem would be somewhat tempered, but they are not of sufficient quality to overcome their inappropriate placement.
- CiPHPerCoder 7y ago> Relax and keep your emotions in check. I don't think it's medically possible for me to relax more than I am right now without losing consciousness, thanks. > They are not irrationally scared of Indians, The term "phobic" doesn't just mean "irrationally scared", it also refers to cognitive distortions and feelings of contempt. > they are annoyed that Indian videos are flooding their feeds, The fact that the content is low quality or in a language the viewer doesn't understand is orthogonal to the people who made the video being Indian. Focusing on that fact instead of the actual problem shows a racial and/or national discriminatory motive and should be addressed. > they want different content and that is common sense in this context. If the Indian videos were if sufficient quality the problem would be somewhat tempered, but they are not of sufficient quality to overcome their inappropriate placement. Only "somewhat" tempered?
- DataFly 7y agoPhobic means irrational, just because some people with agendas redefine and corrupt language does not mean it is correct. It’s not orthogonal, the videos being from India is the exact reason there is a problem, for the problem to be fixed, in this context (not all) Indian videos must be discriminated against because users do not wish to tolerate them ruining their experience.
- kburman 7y agoYou created a new account just to make this comment. Says a lot about you.
- r_singh 7y agoI'm from India, I upvoted this submission when it had 1 point. I've only gone through the ones I could see on the first page, I personally think that OP and a lot of the people there are just frustrated with their Youtube search results and there's a lot more hate for Google's apparent callousness there than for India or Indian creators. > But how some of the commenters choose to express their thoughts comes across more as "I hate people from India" than "This is inconvenient". There's always gonna be those people in every single community. I found the page hilarious, wonder if I've become desensitised.
- CiPHPerCoder 7y ago> There's always gonna be those people in every single community. Violent crime is also a grim reality we all have to live with, even if things are as a whole improving (statistically). > I found the page hilarious, wonder if I've become desensitised. That's not necessarily a bad thing. Maybe it can come in handy (e.g. easier to remain calm in a bad situation). I hope neither of us ever has to find out.
- srean 7y agoI am Indian myself and so many times I have wanted a way to filter out Hindi videos in youtube because a) that's not what I was looking for b) they aren't always that great. Neither Hindi nor English are my mother tongue. Between the two I am more comfortable in English although I speak a lot of Hindi at home. Some may argue that Hindi is the national language of India. It certainly is a national language. It also happens to be a regional language of some parts of North and central India that by happenstance got branded as a national one.
- iamshs 7y agoThis is what i want desperately on Youtube. A way to avoid Hindi videos entirely.
- srean 7y agoFor me its Hindi not because I have anything against Hindi. Just that I get many search results in that language and I don't care so much about those videos and it drown out other results that I do care about. Hypothetically, it could have been some other language than Hindi. A filter to choose the spoken language used in the video would be very nice indeed.
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