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Steve Jobs has six weeks to live

4 points by frevd 16y ago

Terretta 16y ago
… says tabloid. EDIT: "An Open Letter to the Apple News Community on Steve Jobs’ Health, Professional Boundaries and Not Being Douchebags" -- http://forkbombr.net/apple-news-open-letter/ http://forkbombr.net/apple-news-open-letter/
- frevd 16y ago
  Yeah, just popped up on google news, not more than a rumor, but I thought to post it nevertheless. EDIT: And this is a duplicate (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2234776 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2234776) Any chance of getting a search function into HN?
  - nutanc 16y ago
    http://searchyc.com/ http://searchyc.com/
    - frevd 16y ago
      Thanks, but this is not "live" enough. I'd vote for an integrated search rather than relying on external services with unknown cache intervals.
    - frevd 16y ago
      Nevermind, I'll create one myself.. I always wanted a better feed view of HN. I guess grouped by automatically derived tags and instant live-update could improve on that matter.
  - RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
    There is search. As I say in my other, longer reply, there's SearchYC and there's the link at the bottom of every page. But people won't search. No one will bother. People will just submit the link and if it's a duplicate, who cares? It's too much work to see if anyone has submitted the same thing in the past few minutes, let alone the last few hours, or days, or weeks.
    - frevd 16y ago
      No, but if something interesting just pops up you simple don't have the time to search but the first few recent new-pages before someone else will post. EDIT: Well yes, people don't search, it should be done automatically ;]
      - RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
        > ... if something interesting just pops up you simple > don't have the time to search but the first few recent > new-pages before someone else will post. Why does that matter? If someone else posts it, good for them. And it only takes about 30 seconds to run a SearchYC query, and about 30 seconds to scan the last two or three "newest" pages. One minute isn't long to wait. And what if every time you submitted the system went and tried to deduce what to search for, presented you with its results, and made you check them before submitting. How would that feel. Maybe that would be an improvement. If it worked.
        frevd 16y ago
        > Maybe that would be an improvement. If it worked. Exactly, that's a very good idea, and easily implemented. Concerning search, which should be integrated nevertheless, I'm not used to do things again and again if I can automate it, it's just not my thing and if forced I'd rather not post again than doing it (which would maybe not be all that bad ;). My point is that it's easy to implement for YC, simple filters and keyword search, c'mon, if I can do it, they can do it, I'll definitely create a prototype..
- iuguy 16y ago
  Not just any tabloid, but that bastion of professional supermarket journalism, the National Enquirer!
RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
Oh no, not again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2228842 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2228842 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2228854 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2228854 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2230042 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2230042 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2230361 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2230361 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2230497 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2230497 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2230702 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2230702 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2234776 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2234776
- frevd 16y ago
  See my remark below. How do you track that?
  - RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
    I use http://searchyc.com http://searchyc.com. It used to be the case that if it less than an hour old it was on "newest", and if it was more than an hour old it was on SearchYC. Here's a lengthy discussion of the question: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1329334 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1329334 In that PG says it's hard, but SearchYC seems to have got something that's good enough. Ironically enough, I found that using it: http://searchyc.com/submissions/PG+search?sort=by_date http://searchyc.com/submissions/PG+search?sort=by_date Recently, however, it would appear that SearchYC has been lagging, and I wonder if it has been blocked by PG/YC. PG has said elsewhere that he's developing his own search engine for HN: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1955703 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1955703 Perhaps he's deliberately blocking it to make his search seem better. Seems unlikely. Perhaps they scraped too aggressively and triggered a block. Seems more likely. But the subject comes up a lot, and many people are dissatisfied. Lots of people therefore scrape, and that puts extra load on the server. You're proposing to do the same. It would be better if a distributed scraping system were devised, and that had a proper API. Alternatively, if PG provided a proper API, but why should he? Let PG focus on getting good discussions, and someone else to provide a better filter or tagging system. More scraping, more load, but if someone does something "properly" then maybe the others can finally stop.

4 points by frevd 16y ago

… says tabloid. EDIT: "An Open Letter to the Apple News Community on Steve Jobs’ Health, Professional Boundaries and Not Being Douchebags" -- http://forkbombr.net/apple-news-open-letter/ http://forkbombr.net/apple-news-open-letter/

frevd 16y ago
Yeah, just popped up on google news, not more than a rumor, but I thought to post it nevertheless. EDIT: And this is a duplicate (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2234776 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2234776) Any chance of getting a search function into HN?
- nutanc 16y ago
  http://searchyc.com/ http://searchyc.com/
  - frevd 16y ago
    Thanks, but this is not "live" enough. I'd vote for an integrated search rather than relying on external services with unknown cache intervals.
  - frevd 16y ago
    Nevermind, I'll create one myself.. I always wanted a better feed view of HN. I guess grouped by automatically derived tags and instant live-update could improve on that matter.
- RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
  There is search. As I say in my other, longer reply, there's SearchYC and there's the link at the bottom of every page. But people won't search. No one will bother. People will just submit the link and if it's a duplicate, who cares? It's too much work to see if anyone has submitted the same thing in the past few minutes, let alone the last few hours, or days, or weeks.
  - frevd 16y ago
    No, but if something interesting just pops up you simple don't have the time to search but the first few recent new-pages before someone else will post. EDIT: Well yes, people don't search, it should be done automatically ;]
    - RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
      > ... if something interesting just pops up you simple > don't have the time to search but the first few recent > new-pages before someone else will post. Why does that matter? If someone else posts it, good for them. And it only takes about 30 seconds to run a SearchYC query, and about 30 seconds to scan the last two or three "newest" pages. One minute isn't long to wait. And what if every time you submitted the system went and tried to deduce what to search for, presented you with its results, and made you check them before submitting. How would that feel. Maybe that would be an improvement. If it worked.
      - frevd 16y ago
        > Maybe that would be an improvement. If it worked. Exactly, that's a very good idea, and easily implemented. Concerning search, which should be integrated nevertheless, I'm not used to do things again and again if I can automate it, it's just not my thing and if forced I'd rather not post again than doing it (which would maybe not be all that bad ;). My point is that it's easy to implement for YC, simple filters and keyword search, c'mon, if I can do it, they can do it, I'll definitely create a prototype..
iuguy 16y ago
Not just any tabloid, but that bastion of professional supermarket journalism, the National Enquirer!

RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago

Oh no, not again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2228842 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2228842 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2228854 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2228854 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2230042 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2230042 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2230361 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2230361 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2230497 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2230497 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2230702 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2230702 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2234776 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2234776

frevd 16y ago
See my remark below. How do you track that?
- RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
  I use http://searchyc.com http://searchyc.com. It used to be the case that if it less than an hour old it was on "newest", and if it was more than an hour old it was on SearchYC. Here's a lengthy discussion of the question: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1329334 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1329334 In that PG says it's hard, but SearchYC seems to have got something that's good enough. Ironically enough, I found that using it: http://searchyc.com/submissions/PG+search?sort=by_date http://searchyc.com/submissions/PG+search?sort=by_date Recently, however, it would appear that SearchYC has been lagging, and I wonder if it has been blocked by PG/YC. PG has said elsewhere that he's developing his own search engine for HN: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1955703 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1955703 Perhaps he's deliberately blocking it to make his search seem better. Seems unlikely. Perhaps they scraped too aggressively and triggered a block. Seems more likely. But the subject comes up a lot, and many people are dissatisfied. Lots of people therefore scrape, and that puts extra load on the server. You're proposing to do the same. It would be better if a distributed scraping system were devised, and that had a proper API. Alternatively, if PG provided a proper API, but why should he? Let PG focus on getting good discussions, and someone else to provide a better filter or tagging system. More scraping, more load, but if someone does something "properly" then maybe the others can finally stop.