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You seem to have done some reading on this subject - care to recommend a few books that are well-researched and well-reasoned and not written by cranks?

lend000 7y ago
The pinnacle of UFO research quality is from Jacques Vallee [0], who seems to have always been well ahead of the field, but he doesn't really hold back, which is both a pro and a con to someone casually interested. I'm also not familiar with his opinions on more recent developments in the space, which are quite significant. I can recommend a fictional book "Sekret Machines" by the former lead of Blink 182 who has used his fame and lifelong passion for the phenomenon to create a media company espousing a more gentle introduction to the subject, while still providing some sobering and fascinating context on the phenomenon. The flashbacks are allegedly historical fiction, one of which was referenced in this popular mechanics article (when a UFO floated over Malstrom AFB and took all the ICBM's offline). It's also just a really good read. This same company hired Elizondo and a number of other "in-the-know" advisors, and caused the current UFO media hype cycle by releasing the Nimitz tape to the NYT in 2017. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Vall%C3%A9e https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Vall%C3%A9e
ert_eeff_ffhxxx 7y ago
Richard Dolan has written a number of books from a ‘smoke then fire’ perspective focusing on how much the US (and other) governments appeared preoccupied with the subject while denying that preoccupation. He doesn’t speculate or fill in gaps. He is and writes like an historian, however, so get ready for some dry reading.
tgflynn 7y ago
From what I've seen almost everyone who "specializes" in UFO's ends up going off the deep end in one way or another. Some people who tend to try to stick to what's verifiable are: John Greenwald - Specializes in FOIA, sometimes over-focuses on probably irrelevant details but is evolving. Mick West - A skeptic, one of the few people who has attempted any serious public analysis of the Navy videos, seems reasonably open minded though biased toward the most ordinary possible explanations even of phenomena that clearly deviate substantially from the ordinary. Luis Elizondo - Certainly worth listening to, though opinions vary greatly on his credibility. Tim McMillan - The author of the original post. Looks promising, especially if most of his claims here turn out to be accurate.

lend000 7y ago

The pinnacle of UFO research quality is from Jacques Vallee [0], who seems to have always been well ahead of the field, but he doesn't really hold back, which is both a pro and a con to someone casually interested. I'm also not familiar with his opinions on more recent developments in the space, which are quite significant. I can recommend a fictional book "Sekret Machines" by the former lead of Blink 182 who has used his fame and lifelong passion for the phenomenon to create a media company espousing a more gentle introduction to the subject, while still providing some sobering and fascinating context on the phenomenon. The flashbacks are allegedly historical fiction, one of which was referenced in this popular mechanics article (when a UFO floated over Malstrom AFB and took all the ICBM's offline). It's also just a really good read. This same company hired Elizondo and a number of other "in-the-know" advisors, and caused the current UFO media hype cycle by releasing the Nimitz tape to the NYT in 2017. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Vall%C3%A9e https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Vall%C3%A9e

ert_eeff_ffhxxx 7y ago

Richard Dolan has written a number of books from a ‘smoke then fire’ perspective focusing on how much the US (and other) governments appeared preoccupied with the subject while denying that preoccupation. He doesn’t speculate or fill in gaps. He is and writes like an historian, however, so get ready for some dry reading.

tgflynn 7y ago

From what I've seen almost everyone who "specializes" in UFO's ends up going off the deep end in one way or another. Some people who tend to try to stick to what's verifiable are: John Greenwald - Specializes in FOIA, sometimes over-focuses on probably irrelevant details but is evolving. Mick West - A skeptic, one of the few people who has attempted any serious public analysis of the Navy videos, seems reasonably open minded though biased toward the most ordinary possible explanations even of phenomena that clearly deviate substantially from the ordinary. Luis Elizondo - Certainly worth listening to, though opinions vary greatly on his credibility. Tim McMillan - The author of the original post. Looks promising, especially if most of his claims here turn out to be accurate.