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First question: what would you make different between your proposed system and the (somewhat notorious) DMCA claim system that we have right now? Do you think t
by danShumway 7y ago
First question: what would you make different between your proposed system and the (somewhat notorious) DMCA claim system that we have right now? Do you think that the DMCA claim system is a good model for this? Or are there additional safeguards you would put in place to stop platforms from just removing anything they get a request for? Would you make filers liable for frivolous takedown requests? If so, does that mean that takedown requests can't happen anonymously? We already have a system in place where anybody can request anything get taken down for copyright reasons, and unsurprisingly, it is widely abused for censorship.
Second question: when you see platforms like 8Chan taken down today, do you think that's wrong? Should companies like Cloudflare be forced by the government to leave those sites up, even when they're advocating for completely despicable things or crossing a line into outright threats? If Cloudflare isn't going to be forced by the government to leave those sites up, why would anyone willingly host the platforms that can't do any moderation at all, even of open hate speech, rampant spam/scam advertising, pornography, or borderline illegal stalking/threats? To push that question a step farther -- when you look at GMail's auto-rejection and sorting of spam, do you think that's wrong?
Third question: do kids get to have user-generated content hosted anywhere? They can't realistically go on 8-Chan, so is the idea that they won't join forums until they're old enough that they feel comfortable in environments filled with Nazis? Bear in mind that this includes communities like Miiverse. Nintendo isn't human-moderating every Miiverse post before it goes public. There's no world where they willingly open themselves up to the kind of liability you're talking about, those platforms would just be shut down.
Final question, and I do genuinely mean this as a question, not as a dismissal or as a request to go away: why are you on Hackernews right now, given that Hackernews fits very squarely in the category you're saying shouldn't exist? Hackernews is heavily moderated (way more heavily than Twitter), but it also allows people to post crazy stuff. The moderation mostly happens after the fact, which would open the owners up to liability. Would Hackernews be a better community if submissions/posts weren't moderated? Would Hackernews be a better community if every post you made went into a human-moderated queue, and you had to wait (at least) 2-3 days before it became publicly visible? Bear in mind, Hackernews is largely moderated by something like 3 people, so even in the best case scenario they're definitely going to need to hire more and get a bit more aggressive about advertising and fees.