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There are several important new pieces of information here and significantly more detail than we had before. In particular, we learn that "Brigadier General Ri

There are several important new pieces of information here and significantly more detail than we had before. In particular, we learn that "Brigadier General Richard Stapp, Director of the DoD Special Access Program Central Office, testified the mysterious objects being encountered by the military were not related to secret U.S. technology." There is also evidence put forward that Elizondo was put on the program because his varied experiences and clearances would be useful in ascertaining whether sightings were related to black projects. There is more confirmation here that anomalous events have occurred at ICBM bases, which is pretty sobering. The most prominent of these events happened in the 1960's, and there are similar reports that came out of Soviet Russia (not mentioned in this article). We also learn the lengths that both the government and the contractors went to deliver misinformation about the program since its initial revelation, despite it not actually involving any exotic technology. Many people will take this at face value and believe the Pentagon's next statement, despite the fact that they have continuously stated "we are done studying ufo's this time, nothing to see here" since Blue Book publicly ended, only for there to be another program revealed later. IMO this debunks the "secret US aircraft" angle that a lot of skeptics use, and it makes it highly unlikely it belongs to a "local" adversary.

blotter_paper 7y ago
If this is a false flag to get the world united against an extraterrestrial threat, then nothing short of widely circulated biological specimens would reasonably rule out secret US aircrafts. The experts said that the second Gulf of Tonkin incident was real, too. They're the government, my dear; they lie.
- lend000 7y ago
  You can't have your cake and eat it, too. They do indeed lie, and most of their lies have involved calling serious unexplained incidents weather balloons or shooting stars. The most interesting documents are not the public statements prepared, but the private testimony between military groups behind closed doors.
  - blotter_paper 7y ago
    I believe that most members of the US military believed the second Gulf of Tonkin incident was real at the time -- one hand can believe lies the other hand tells. I'm also not arrogant enough to believe anything with 100% certainty. I think we're probably looking at the US government (and potentially the Soviets) not admitting to saucer shaped crafts (whether or not in preparation for a false flag), but I'll grant you that there is some hard-to-pin-down chance of genuinely weird shit going on. Even if we're going down that road, I'm betting an aquatic origin is more likely than an extraterrestrial one.
tgflynn 7y ago
I wonder how certain it is that either General Stapp or Elizondo had visibility into all SAP's, including the unacknowledged ones. Even if they knew about everything DoD was doing, what about the CIA, which has been known to have its own technology programs ?

blotter_paper 7y ago

If this is a false flag to get the world united against an extraterrestrial threat, then nothing short of widely circulated biological specimens would reasonably rule out secret US aircrafts. The experts said that the second Gulf of Tonkin incident was real, too. They're the government, my dear; they lie.

lend000 7y ago
You can't have your cake and eat it, too. They do indeed lie, and most of their lies have involved calling serious unexplained incidents weather balloons or shooting stars. The most interesting documents are not the public statements prepared, but the private testimony between military groups behind closed doors.
- blotter_paper 7y ago
  I believe that most members of the US military believed the second Gulf of Tonkin incident was real at the time -- one hand can believe lies the other hand tells. I'm also not arrogant enough to believe anything with 100% certainty. I think we're probably looking at the US government (and potentially the Soviets) not admitting to saucer shaped crafts (whether or not in preparation for a false flag), but I'll grant you that there is some hard-to-pin-down chance of genuinely weird shit going on. Even if we're going down that road, I'm betting an aquatic origin is more likely than an extraterrestrial one.

tgflynn 7y ago

I wonder how certain it is that either General Stapp or Elizondo had visibility into all SAP's, including the unacknowledged ones. Even if they knew about everything DoD was doing, what about the CIA, which has been known to have its own technology programs ?